Got an interesting and somewhat saddening bubblemail today. An artist who was being criticized for digital manipulating a photo and dari…
Got an interesting and somewhat saddening bubblemail today. An artist who was being criticized for digital manipulating a photo and daring to call it “art.” They wrote to me because I also work in digital art, and asked my opinion. First let me describe the Artwork in question. It had started as a photo, then was converted to a line art drawing using software. (And by the way, if that sounds easy to you, you haven’t tried. Sure the software does most of the “work”... once you find good settings for your particular image! ...and that can be a major headache!) But more than this, the Artist had gone over each section, adjusting color and gradient. This was not a lazy piece of work. I started off addressing the work: “I actually like both versions; it’s clear that some people just don’t ‘get’ that the intention is a sort of digital impressionism, not photorealism.” “I note you said ‘Photographers’ were panning it. There are some – not all – in that category who are …. er, “purists” is a nice word. Let’s use that. The purist feels that the skill and effort of capturing the perfect picture is the ultimate achievement – they and their camera vs. the world. For them, digital manipulation is a distasteful “cheat.” Maybe to smooth over a flaw or two in the otherwise perfect picture, but it shouldn’t alter the overall look of the picture (so they say.) Fine for them, but some will insist on enforcing their opinions on everyone else.” “You have started with a great photo, and then you saw more in it: it became the canvas for another work. And you’ve done a fine job. Even if you’d just “run it through a filter”, that was your decision, you made the input of altering the picture that way. (And sometimes that yields spectacular results… look up a guy by the handle “lightsmith” here. I like his name, too: he doesn’t just capture the light with his camera, he works it over in photoshop as a smith does iron.)” The artist also asked me if I had ever “gotten flack from other artists because you don’t get your fingers dirty with paint?”... “Have I gotten flack for not getting my fingers dirty? For not even using a camera? Well, not so much personally but I’ve seen it over and over in other communities. I look at it this way: The photographer does not usually sculpt or give birth to his or her subject, they do not cause the sun to rise or the landscape to teem with flora. They take what they find and use it, manipulate it, frame it and capture that wonderful image that they saw and wanted to share. I have pictures in my head… to get them out I use models created by others and software I did not write, but I carefully place, pose and arrange. I adjust the light, changing it’s intensity, color or direction (an ability some photographers would kill for!) I compose and frame my images the same way as the photographer, I just have a somewhat fantastic camera and infinitely patient subjects. ;) “ But the big question in the email was Is it Art? “To borrow/paraphrase the definition of a friend of mine (“GoofyFoot” here) ‘Art is anything created by one person capable of eliciting an emotional response in another person.’ “ “And if I were to extend it into the definition of an artist, I’d say “A person capable of creating Art, as defined above, and who does not deny the validity of someone else’s ‘art’” ... because once you cross that line, you’ve become a snob, and the only reactions you can create are unpleasant ones.” And there you go. If it makes you feel, it’s Art. It doesn’t mean you have to like it. I’ve seen plenty of Art I didn’t like. It doesn’t mean that your way of doing Art is “wrong” and you need to do it that way. But what it does mean is that however it was created is a valid way of creating Art; and you have no right to deny the legitimacy of it because techniques were used that you don’t approve of. The traditional media artist critisize the photographers for “just snapping pics of what someone else created.” The photographers criticize the digital artists for working in a medium that has “undo.” The digital painters criicize the 3D artists for “playing with digital dollies and letting software make all the art.” The ‘pro’ photographer criticizes the photographers who “manipulate their work artificially.” The ‘pro’ 3D artists criticize the hobbyist for “not making their own models.” The oil painters criticize the watercolor artists for working in a “lightweight medium.” It’s all ridiculous. I have a friend who likes to turn the tables and ask the painters if they bind their own brushes and gather and mix their own pigments. After all, if you don’t you’re taking credit for work that is partially someone else’s. ;) Art comes in all flavors. And while it is part of redbubble’s massive organization problem, it is also one of the things that makes redbubble great. They (almost) got it all. I would never go to a photography-only site, but I’ve seen some awesome photos here that I’m glad I didn’t miss. Excuse me, I should have said “I’ve seen some awesome Art here that I’m glad I didn’t miss.”
I have had the privilege of working on one of Maximus’s images in a collaboration – please check it out here...
I have had the privilege of working on one of Maximus’s images in a collaboration – please check it out here. I know he’d be delighted to have you visit!!!
Thanks Music inspired art (M.I.A) group for featured my Work / “So La Mi Maestro, Concerto del piano “ !http://images-0.redbubble.net/...
Thanks Music inspired art (M.I.A) group for featured my Work / “So La Mi Maestro, Concerto del piano “
/ Woke up late this morning and after doing the neccesaries, checked my bubble, saw and looked ar some comments and replies to comments. Hidden away was my surprize My work / Arletta / / an artistic rendering from a photo I got permission from Arletta to do is featured in the group Bits and pieces. / / Check it out. A great thks to the moderators of this group for featuring this piece. Got me in a sunday good mood thks. Paul :))))))))))))
Thanks to “DANCE GROUP” for featured my artwork “Flamenco” / !http://images-2.redbubble.net/img/art/border:blackwithdetail/product:lamina…
Thanks to “DANCE GROUP” for featured my artwork “Flamenco” /
This was not planned writing, nor do I claim to have gotten everything ultra-correct, but it was my spontaneous writing on a question of …
This was not planned writing, nor do I claim to have gotten everything ultra-correct, but it was my spontaneous writing on a question of viewpoint as to what is art, digital paintings, etc. I did remove an ID of a member, so as not to encourage more strife or embarrassment or etc. Obviously, not everyone will have the same opinions or viewpoints; these are mine. I thought I’d clarify this point, as I see it. If you take photo and run a filter on it to change it, or several filters, it is manipulation. If you take several photos and bond them together, with or without further filter manipulation, it is manipulation. Which can be highly artistic, and take a lot of effort. Art to me is intention and effort. Sometimes you have little intention but a lot of effort, sometimes vice versa; but you have both. A bad dancer still intends to dance and if it’s a short dance badly done, they are still a dancer. If someone quickly blobs paint around with the intention of just quickly blobbing paint around, then it’s not art because that is not a true intent. but, if they do it with the intention of causing an emotional response, causing a certain feeling within a room, or etc. then it is art. Because there is effort and intent. Okay, so that further defines what is intent. Apparently, I am clarifying several points. lol A digital painting is one wherein someone has actually made brush strokes, preferably a lot of them. Not just with filters that look like brush strokes, but where they actually move a stylus or a mouse after having selected a brush and a color and they’d done the digital equivalent of making a brush stroke on canvas. Therefore, I would not consider most of what I have seen done with Adobe as any form of painting, whatsoever, or drawing either. They have “brushes” that are in fact “stamps” so, unless the person has created their own stamp, they have not put that sort of effort into it, whatever their intent. Something I do, such as my latest piece, may look like a painting but it is not a painting. I chose no brush to make those marks! It was solely by filter and cut and paste. However, I do paint on an art program where I have to make the same physical and mental equivalents motions and emotional choices that I would if I were painting on canvas – so long as someone else prepared my palette and tools for me. So they are really paintings, with all the effort and weirdness of really painting. I also do things that are really paintings that are done with what would be the equivalent of an artist using such things as ‘fast dry” and textured paints and gesso and paint on masques to conceal an area, and all the little tricks they have. Since I have not met anyone in over 20 years who claims that when it is done on canvas then it is not a painting, I still consider them digital paintings when I use the same tricks in an art program. I do distinguish between the things. One can simply draw, or paint, or manipulate a painting, or manipulate a photo or several photos, or just enhance a photo with the digital equivalent of a photographer’s filters and dark room tricks. Does that help? There are groups for differentiating between types of painting, obviously. That is where >>>>> went so very wrong, besides that she was insulting me. I belong to the Painters in Modern Times group, I have paintings in it. Persimmon Afternoon was not in it, because that group is not for digital painting. If I had tried to place it there, she would have been most thoroughly correct in telling me it is not a painting .. by their standards Or she would have been, if she was the mod; though, she still should have not been so insulting about it. ........................................................................... So, there you go. When you see me saying something is a digital painting, you’ll know, more or less, what I mean. For the record, if I didn’t say it, I do believe that a person can manipulate an image, enhance it, etc. and then paint on it and it would still be a painting, much as Ralph Bascshi did (if I spelled his name right). So, yes, if I took a photo of a tree, altered it, painted fairies around it, and etc. it would be called a painting. Because, dear heart, it would still be a painting if I did that on a piece off canvas instead of a computer and, as I am a big fan of “found art” I would do it! If it is my photo, or it is given to me to do this who is to say I cannot?
Thank you to Dendoo and Vestque This is my intervie…
Thank you to Dendoo and Vestque This is my interview with the kind and witty Dendoo. / The Monthly Do | Interview with Ash Sivils Thank you to Vestque for suggesting me.
As long as you have a photo editing program that allows the use of layers with different blending modes you can easily add depth and text…
As long as you have a photo editing program that allows the use of layers with different blending modes you can easily add depth and texture. Open the image you want to work with and your texture image. Drag the texture image over the main image; or if dragging won’t work with your program – copy and paste the image as a new layer. Then change the blend mode. What blend mode you use will depend on the original image and the look you are trying to achieve. I always start with Overlay and work from there. Other commonly used modes include Soft Light, Hard Light, Vivid, Screen, and Multiply. Play around and find a setting that works best for your tastes. Also you can play around with the opacity of the layer as well. If you want the texture but don’t want the colors of the texture layer simply desaturate the texture layer; or change it to black and white. You can also play around with the levels or curves of the texture image to lighten or darken it, or to create more contrast. Most of all don’t be afraid to experiment and play around. That’s how you will learn best.
“His eyes are on the sparrow and I know He’s watching over me” was featured in the group PEACE, LOVE & TRANQUILITY Thanks to the wond…
“His eyes are on the sparrow and I know He’s watching over me” was featured in the group PEACE, LOVE & TRANQUILITY Thanks to the wonderful hosts’ and moderators for featuring this image in their group! I just made it lastnight! This was a commisioned work for my dear friend Rasnidreamer (Sue). I am excited about it because I made it from her idea and I love a challenge to create new things for other people. ! / http://images-1.redbubble.net/img/art/framecolor:cherry/framestyle:flat30/mattecolor:off%20white/product:framed-print/size:small/view:preview/2628466-4-his-eyes-are-on-the-sparrow-and-i-know-hes-watching-over-me.jpg!
About 3 years ago I decided to start a group on Flickr that was dedicated to artists like myself who where not necessarily photographers …
About 3 years ago I decided to start a group on Flickr that was dedicated to artists like myself who where not necessarily photographers but who still loved creating beautiful images digitally. If you are a photo retoucher, restorer, digital artist or photo manipulation artist, please feel free to join my group RETOUCH MAGIC on flickr at www.flickr.com/groups/retouchmagic We have almost 2,500 members from around the world and over 10,000 photos in our group pool! I try my best to update the group as often as I can and I will be adding new tutorials, files, and videos in the coming months! Hope to see you there. Becka
I am very honored and appreciate each and every one for their votes. / You really give me hope as a photographer and make me want to conti…
I am very honored and appreciate each and every one for their votes. / You really give me hope as a photographer and make me want to continue to improve each and every time. / Thank you One and All
Thanks to the CORE group for featuring my work ‘Third day of miracle’ !http://images-0….
Thanks to the CORE group for featuring my work ‘Third day of miracle’ Smiley thanks dear Ushna I would also thank for past features I missed to notice: / The lame dog’s dream / Angelhunt / Tree of knowledge / and Out of darkness /
I would like to send a big thank to the Core , / Imaginative Realism...
I would like to send a big thank to the Core , / Imaginative Realism , / Outsiders , / Color Me a Rainbow , / The Voyage Of The Surrealists and / The Patchwork groups that featured my works Out of darkness / Alone / Portrait of a ghost / Tree of knowledge / Angelhunt / Greetings from Eastern Europe / Abstract cat / in May but I did not noticed it. / I hope you forgive a newby over here:)) / I am greately honored.
My image Peggy’s Cove , which was a collaboration between *“L…
My image Peggy’s Cove , which was a collaboration between Lucindawind and myself as been published in a new book by Jeff Wignall. The book is Winning Digital Photo Contests Not much money coming my way, but in terms of exposure, well, ................... The book will be on sale worldwide in October.
Thanks to all of my bubble friends who gave such nice comments on my work and to the wonderful host’ of the groups who featured my work. ...
Thanks to all of my bubble friends who gave such nice comments on my work and to the wonderful host’ of the groups who featured my work. I am honored and thrilled to have my work amongts some of the most talented artist! “Dreamer” was featured in Parallel Dimensions / / “Dreamer” was featured in ! 100% ! / / “Save me!” was featured in Angel Wings and Heaven / / “Welcome home!” was featured in Core [C.O.R.E] / / “Welcome home!” was featured in Living Christianity / !http://images-1.redbubble.net/img/art/backingcolor:white/product:greeting-card/view:preview/4061128-1-welcome-home.jpg / “Welcome home!” was featured in A Spiritual Walk / / “Swan River” was featured in I Love Birds / / “Twilight Tales” was featured in ImageWriting (2/24) / / “Save me!” was featured in PEACE, LOVE & TRANQUILITY / / “Missing you..” was featured in First Things / / “Cast the first stone” was featured in ! Inspired Art ! /
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