Cardinality

“Can you answer a question I’m unsure of”

“What?”

“Is Christianity monotheism?”

“As far as I know there is one God from whom emanates one morality for all humanity”

“and..?”

“what else we need?”

“do you really believe that there is only one God?”

“What you do mean?”

“I’m confused!”

“why you are in a confused state of mind?”

“polytheism!”

“polytheism? what about it? you do believe that there is more than one god?”

“No, I don’t”

“then?”

“I was only thinking..”

“Do you think more then two gods exist and only one root god exists?
do you faith polinity in the dogma? does inclusive monotheism exist? ‘Sure, and if you believe that, you’ll believe anything.”

“root god?”

“Well root god is a god which is included by no gods”

“yeah I know that”

“so? .. there are many belief exist whether it is polinity or the existence of god as the causa prima or omnifundatoresism’ ‘Don’t you believe it!’

“Omnifundatoresism? if I belief that exists then I have to also believe that “Everyone can become a founder.”

“omnifundatoresism, is an idea that it is preferable that individual man has a different religion respectively”

“then…”

“I belief in the one supreme God, the Creator and Lord of the world, the eternal Spirit, All-powerful, All-wise, and All-good, the Rewarder of good and the Punisher of evil, the Source of our happiness and perfection.”

“so do you think that It is opposed to Polytheism, which is belief in more gods than one, and to Atheism, which is disbelief in any deity whatsoever”

“I belief In contrast with Deism, it is the recognition of God’s presence and activity in every part of creation.”

“he he”
“what is it then”

“am I not religious, I do not like religion and how it has wrecked the world, no groping my bum, I realised all issues created by only religion in this world”

“yeah they are”

“It’s a religion that teaches many things, it’s a believe that shows many direction, it’s a faith that tells God exists everywhere”

“panentheism?
or pantheism?”

“I’m sure pantheism not panentheism”

“so Christianity is a pantheism view?

“that the belief God is present in all natural things”

“So?”

“In contrast with Pantheism, it is belief in a God of conscious freedom, distinct from the physical world. Both Deism and Pantheism are religious philosophies rather than religions”

“Ah’ I like the panentheism view though”

“Christianity is not a way of punishing or act of pushing”

“what you mean?”

“as far as I feel it’s a faith, no body can force you to believe in God. it comes from heart”

“but there is panentheism Christians”

“what you are?”

“I have only really ever thought about it today!
I would believe maybe I believe in panentheim Christianity”

“that’s your choice but wondered why you could not think before!”

“cause I have never brought what I thought right back to the basic thought of who/what God is! ... I believe in the Trinity! the father, son and holy spirit”

“Okay!”

“Wish I could sit God down and have conversation with him!”

“Maybe one day you could!”

“maybe… that most people actually believe in a similar theory to Christianity and they don’t even know it”

“yeah true”

“everyone always tries to cater for you mind, body and soul,
mind -god
body – Jesus
soul – spirit
trinity!
father, son, spirit
past, present and future!”

“you think it can be a solution for all issues and problems and life?”

“It can be a key!”

“that key can be a solution … solution for issues problems and life, it could be a key to life”

“it is SO intelligent but so hard to do! it says that we are little souls of god and we know everything we just have to experience them to remember… so we never learn anything. we just remember!”

“do you think?.. you really agree?”

“knowing, experiencing and being father son spirit!
yes I agree!”

“good”

“father is the knowing, Jesus is the experiencing and spirit is the being. This is the reason why god created the world but god is much bigger than just the world, he is timeless. God yearned for the BEING bit so he we were created cause he is all knowing, then he could experience and then being. this is bliss, it is so so hard to understand”

“yeah maybe… we still don’t know many secret, many things are still hidden”

“yeah I agree”

“we need eye that can see those things. an inner eye!”

“but reality and fact says is that we are too creators, we create things all the time and most of what happens to us is created by us and god will NEVER stop you cause you have free will, he will just be with you. some things other people create on us but most of it is caused by ourselves”

“cause we are human. we need some visible facts to believe!”

“I think I understand more than ever!”

“I’m not sure that we understand, We’re out of touch with reality.”

“You’re absolutely right”

“what you feel that God is not a personality?”

“what you mean?

“well if we believe in doctrine pantheism that says God is not a personality but what you feel? sometimes I feel God can be a personality”

“I think that jesus proved he was a personality”

“Let’s suppose for a moment if we believe that all laws, forces, manifestations, etc. of the universe are God then don’t you hear the voice from your inner that what is God?”

“he is the clearest thought in your head. I have no clear thought at the moment though”

“do you think that the worship, or toleration of worship, of all gods of various cults?”

“we should tolerate other worship?”

“that’s difficult to understand!”

“we should not judge anyone who chooses to worship something else”

“yeah we can’t, religion is only a path, whether people are believing in and practising Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism or Buddhism! ...they have their own belief, path and faith. religion is a connecting door. It connects us to God. it’s a very close relationship with God.
it’s personal relationship, experience and a personal matter is somewhere between a human and Almighty God. Whether you are a Jewish, hindu, Muslim, buddhist or Christian, Not any religion teaches us combat, crime, terrorism or to kill people deliberately or intentionally hurt anyone. Religions don’t teach mess around with bad behaviour. rather religions are not cause of human error!”

“I know that christianity is the faith for me”

“I found life much easier being an unbeliever, the people are scattered in all directions It will only a small improvement, if we step in the right direction. we glanced in our direction but It’s agony not knowing where we were and where to go.”

“I’m a believer but I always think that why God divided us in many ethical idiologies and monotheism, I see many ethical issues. sometimes I feel we were better without any path & religion ain’t we?
I often think when I look at this world, will God deeply unhappy about the way the people have handled this world’s matter?
we diveded below the surface of the water with discrimination, human ecology, racial hatred, and many errors, cause of that errors World got ruined.
I didn’t realize but he will deeply unhappy at that time when he heard that a person puts a bomb somewhere illegally, million killed by bomber , somewhere we see a series of racist attacks. He cried himself when he gazed down in wonder at the world, Years of fighting, war and viloence have left the world in ruins.Wonder if I could longer sustain my belief, that situation makes me sick.”


“It’s normal to feel like this, I’m not believer but I think that’s a glaring error.It is beyond belief that anyone could commit such a crime. I’m sure that God felt terribly sad about it., I found him crying his eyes out As he watched his Universe die!”

“So that Universe will die and God will not save this?... do you think that God will unable to save us?”

“Come on! you are a believer he he”

“Yeah I know but sometimes it happens, rather I believe in God strongly”

“keep the faith, There remained few people those believe in God he he, I’m sure It annoys him! ..might he will punish you if you think like this”

“I know, you are trying to make me laugh. My parents used to punish me by not letting me watch TV. I remembered my mum used to say me that God will punish you if you will not in bed.—It scared me to think that God is only a fear!”
“he he “
“I conceded grudgingly, you are also a believer ain’t you?

“I’d rather unbeliever than believer, I never felt by conscious guilt. rather I’m humanitarian, and concerned with reducing suffering and improving the conditions that people live in. There is one God from whom emanates one morality for all humanity. God’s primary demand of people is that they act decently toward one another. If all people subscribed to this simple belief—which does not entail leaving, or joining, any specific religion, or giving up any national identity—the world would experience far less evil.”

””you explained the components of ethical monotheism so well whether you are unbeliever”

“we need a basic understanding of the nature of God, people want to called as believer but not many know God’s primary characteristics.”

“so you think God is supranatural?”

“I told you earlier, I’m not believer he he”

“God is good?”

“maybe!”

“God is holy?”

“Yes, God is suprana. This is why Genesis, the Bible’s first book, opens with, “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth” in a world in which nearly all people worshipped nature, the Bible’s intention was to emphasize that nature is utterly subservient to God who made it. Obviously, therefore, God is not a part of nature, and nature is not God.
It is not possible for God to be part of nature for two reasons.nature is finite and God is infinite. If God were within nature, He would be limited, and God, who is not physical, has no limits.
nature is amoral. Nature knows nothing of good and evil. In nature there is one rule—survival of the fittest. There is no right, only might. If a creature is weak, kill it. Only human beings could have moral rules such as, “If it is weak, protect it.” Only human beings can feel themselves ethically obligated to strangers.”

“So you think religious Morality is not Monolithic?”

“Moral values can differ not only from religion to religion, but also between traditions and groups within a religion.The values outlined here aren’t part of every religious moral system, and may be part of some non-religious moral systems.They are, however, flaws in most religious systems of morality and thus a basis for rejecting the idea that religion is necessary for moral values.”

“So if you find enough evidence to prove it, you would be a believer?”

“I don’t bother much about religion, Whether I’m athiest or a agnostic. I’m not into the whole christianity thing but I’m not into the others either, but i’m open the basic beleif of a devine being.. but i still dont think theres enough evidence to prove it..the rest of my reasoning is too long to explain, it would probably take up ages”

“WOW…..you are dumb!”

“Well, the Hebrews quote says that faith is things you hope for, evidence for the inevident, correct? If that is so, We are talking about the same thing. And Faith is not real evidence at all.”
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”

“Why does God allow suffering?”

“No one can know all the answers as to why God allows so much suffering in the world, but there are some explanations that go some way to helping people understand some of the reasons. I believe that the World as a training and testing ground, Perhaps the best way to make sense of the idea that an all-knowing and all-powerful God could nevertheless allow world-class mismanagement and evil actions to happen resulting in the deaths of millions, along with the suffering of individuals on a daily basis for other reasons, is to think of life as a journey, a comparatively very short transitional period leading to eternity, and to think of our time here as a period of training, and a time where the quality of our character is displayed and assessed for the amount of compassion we show to others, in order that we be judged fairly on judgment day.”

“So how suffering can inspire people to become more caring?”

“As for emotional pain, Depression and other emotional problems can be caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, but a person’s life experiences can often dictate what kind of chemical imbalance they will have in their brain. Sometimes the cause is purely physical, but often they can be helped a lot by therapy which teaches them to think positively about things, as well as by airing their grievances and building positive strategies for dealing with any of them that they can, becoming more assertive. Once people have been through emotional pain, they can often end up more caring. Whether it’s Quran or bible, it never teach to destory things!”

“Yeah I agree! The faithful, as they see the intensification of the signs around us, will know that the day of the Lord’s return for them is quickly and will be those who stand firm in their faith through all the end-time distress”

“You see, there will be two kinds of people in these last days, the wise and foolish!... Many may say, “I’m a believer. I’ve built on the rock.” Yet they don’t truly understand what this phrase means. And they will have a great shock and surprise when their relationship with Jesus (God) does not endure the storm. They will be exposed as having no foundation.”

“Do you think people should have the fear of God?”

“Many think the ‘fear of God’ means that they are to be scared of God, but the lack of the fear of God is not a big problem among non-believer. People live as if God is not present to reward, discipline, punish or worship. The problem is exaggerated because many people do not believe that they should fear God either. people reset mind that God is not a fear. Others believe the love of God has eliminated the need for the ‘fear of God.’If one fears God, then he does not really know the love of God. Or if one really knows of God’s love, then he does not fear God”

“yeah true… Usually these people have a problem with understanding and appreciating God’s authority and also want to legitimize their own self-expression. Their concept of the love of God is this over-patronizing image which only affirms and never chastises.”

””It’s no exaggeration to say that most people have never experience their relation with God, they never prove a complete faith. Being believer is not enough sometimes you have to prove it! many possess themselves as beliver but they prove things without exaggeration”

“Social and political problems led to the outbreak of war?
or religion & having of different belief is the cause of fighting each other?”

“No, not religion nor different belief!”

“then?.. Tell me now! Don’t prolong the agony”

“only different interests!”

“Interests?

“yeah personal interests”

“What is the key to get rid of that human error?”

“The key is, how long can the human control their uncertain temper, personal interests and human error, Love is a Key to life!”

“yeah?”

“Yes.”

7/11/08

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