Terry Krysak

oh really…. i have my art linked to my facebook account now that is a worry then..thanks for the info.

I agree that these TOS are devious!
I did a little research and read the TOS, and you are right.
In fact I have DEACTIVATED (notice that one cannot DELETE) my account at Facebook. I don’t like their controlling attitude—and Google is becoming the same way.
Thanks for the heads up!

Unfortunately it doesnt matter if you remove your work or close/delete your account. They still have your data and it now belongs to them. Period. AND I AM BEYOND PISSED OFF!

What about if your account is marked private? Only my friends can see my photos and that is the way it will stay unless I send a link to any friend not on the site! But surely this is the same whatever site you submit photos to I don’t know but it is a tad confusing!! We did find this link however ! http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10165190-36.html!
Hope that works not best at links me!!

piddle try this “link”: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10165190-36.html
sorry :p

I heard about it on the news just this morning and you can read about it here….
News Link Facebook here:
I’ve deactivated my account all ready. I think this was sneaky and underhanded and while I apperciate their need to archive some of the material posted there, for them to claim some usage right to any of the images on FaceBook is in my mind legally wrong unless I gave them permission to use them.

Oh my gosh thank you sooo much…I have a ton of work on there….will delete ASAP…......so appreciate the heads up!

Technically, agreeing to their totalitarian terms of service is the same as giving them permission to use your writing and images in any way they see fit. You upload images and writings “at will”. If you read the fine print on many websites, there are “usage rights” that you sign over to them just by joining. “Personals” websites are typically the worst about it. You are required to upload a photo when you join. However, by agreeing to the TOS (that many don’t bother reading), they now have the right to use any images you upload to “promote” their website. The FaceBook thing is new to me. They don’t “own the copyright” on your pictures and writings per se, but their TOS now allows them “unlimited usage rights” to your pictures and writings in any way they see fit. I’ll be editing my FaceBook account shortly. I can’t delete my account, but I can remove most of the information.

will deleting your artworks there be good enough…or will they still have them aftert the delete?

aw man i just put hunners up there ragin!!! cheers 4 heads up

Dave Edwards added a few more comments which I think will prove helpful. He has gone into the issue in more detail than I did.

i just read a article on cnn about…......it all….....says they are not doing that, didnt say some of the stuff someone said they said….....i dont know….....i went ahead and deleted all my stuff off…..........i believe you guys….......im done there…....thats all i can do with it…....i told them what i thought about it….........why i left…....and why many will…leave

we will just have to sue them…........lol if we see any of our stuff there being thrown around and someone trys to sell it.as theirs…......sad but true, like the enron deal…what can we do….........all their life savings is gone…...the people who took it are gone…...they are older and broke…....most of them…sad but true…...what are you all going to do….....?

I’ve just put two links to this in my Journal.

This is quite amazing….it has not been very public…and I’m glad I heard about this
I guess i will be notifying everyone I know for the next few hours!...Thanx Mark Zuckerberg!
Facebook has been quite a pain in the ass from the start…AND NOW?? Deleting your werx, from your account WONT stop them from using that data…
“You hereby grant Facebook an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to (a) use, copy, publish, stream, store, retain, publicly perform or display, transmit, scan, reformat, modify, edit, frame, translate, excerpt, adapt, create derivative works and distribute (through multiple tiers), any User Content you (i) Post on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof subject only to your privacy settings or (ii) enable a user to Post, including by offering a Share Link on your website and (b) to use your name, likeness and image for any purpose, including commercial or advertising, each of (a) and (b) on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof.
more at FacebookNewTOS
Oh, you also agree to arbitration fun with that…
IS THIS THE START OF THE ORPHAN WORKS ACT? ...
you can also listen to Illustrator Brad Hollands interview about this here…
BradHolland
Those who are unable to create art, do not understand art…
They understand profit…bottom line.
FUCK FACEBOOK

FYI – You should be careful but also note, they DO NOT OWN copyright and if you set your profile to private the privacy rights override everything else and they cannot use your images.

Here is another recent very good article on the subject which includes a link on how to cancel your Facebook account if you so desire.
The Facebook TOS Controversy

oh my goodness thanks for letting us know, i’ll see if i can change mine
thanks again, take care PP

Yep, set Privacy to ‘Friends Only’

Is having the flash widget on face book a problem? That is all I have ever had on Facebook.
Ta for the info

Thats terrible! Why would they change that like that?

Apparently enough people got their panties in a knot about this because this just popped on my facebook in the last couple of hours

Terms of Use Update
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A couple of weeks ago, we posted an update to our Terms of Use that we hoped would clarify some parts of it for our users. Over the past couple of days, we have received a lot of questions and comments about these updated terms and what they mean for people and their information. Because of the feedback we received, we have decided to return to our previous Terms of Use while we resolve the issues that people have raised.

Over the past few days, we have received a lot of good feedback about the new terms we posted two weeks ago. Because of this response, we have decided to return to our previous Terms of Use while we resolve the issues that people have raised.

Too late to be pressing delete on your computer they have all that they want. This is the major problem with trusting people who are out to make money and not caring about the people they are suppose to be serving.
Very strange situation and the owners reply was just as lame!
If they were really interested in you then his reply should of been we will retract the policy.
Be careful with your work I just put a link to my sites if I am gonna join a group like face book.
Then your work stays where it should be in a place you created.
Good luck to all!

OOh great ! I only have flash panels at facebook for all my shops and links.I dont put work up there as it can be right clicked and copied …I just use facebook to play and promote the odd t-shirt. I use lots of other sites like plumdrop and blogs .like wordpress to get more exposure ..Facebook has so many viruses and was the cause of me losing all my work a month ago and im still trying to catch up,,,...Still I will keep my facebook for now.as far as i can see its not posing a huge threat to me as long as i only stick to the few games and friends i have there…like I said…facebook is for playing not for serious stuff like your work …..same goes for other social sites like myspace..
I also have a deviantart account but i dont use it much because of the same problem everything is right clickable and you can save other peoples work .so for me its not secure enough ..

yes nothing is really safe …agree

I deleted my stuff when they first changed the term. AlsO wrote Mark a hugh ass letter. the next day they changed them back. He no longer gets emails. At least the last time I looked he wasnt accepting anymore.