Over the last couple of months RedBubble has been voluntarily paying all the Value Added Tax (VAT) for orders shipped to the UK (the orders are shipped from the US and Australia). The alternative was that the courier company would demand extra money (i.e. the VAT) at delivery – and we thought that was a pretty awful customer experience so we told the courier company that we’d pay the VAT on your behalf.
Anyway, RedBubble has now got an arrangement with the British government to collect and pay the VAT to HMRC. What does this mean? Well from this Thursday’s release all your purchases on RedBubble will include VAT (previously they have been VAT free). For British folks only prices on RedBubble will rise on Thursday. So you’ve got two more days to buy buy buy before the British government joins the party. I wish we didn’t have to pay tax … but it does seem to be the way of the world …
- Peter
P.S. Thursday’s release will be about 2 a.m. London time.
[Edit on 17 April] P.P.S. This week’s release was delayed as a few things weren’t quite ready. We’ll now be releasing the VAT changes next Wednesday.
redbubble addict, about 1 month ago
Ouch!
KMorral, about 1 month ago
Thanks foer letting us know!
Jaybe, about 1 month ago
Boo!! The British Government would tax breathing if they thought they could get away with it!
Rebs O, about 1 month ago
2 more days… here i come with my credit card!!!
Nancy Vice, about 1 month ago
everywhere you go, its ‘fat vat’ !
Sophie Shapiro, about 1 month ago
Thanks for letting us know!S
Alan Findlater, about 1 month ago
Fair enough
Dawnsky2, about 1 month ago
Oh, ok, thaks for letting us know, tax, tax, tax, tut!
susan davies, about 1 month ago
flippin government lol, whats gotta be done has gotta be done
Dave Pearson, about 1 month ago
Does this include books (I’m thinking In the Moment, for example)? Normally books are zero-rated. Or do things get complicated when shipping from abroad?
Durotriges, about 1 month ago
time to go shopping!
Merilyn, about 1 month ago
No matter the country, if they did not waste our tax money I would not mind paying it so much. But the government forgets its OUR money not theirs.! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
ozlat, about 1 month ago
go nuts and buy everything… buy it all…. and do it all over again…. then again and again and again and then wait… eat 2 minute noodles…. and smile… you know it’s worth it
dawndavies, about 1 month ago
thanks for letting me know, good job today i had 10 cards of mine purchased by somebody, my its hard enough to sell them as it is, I have sold 23 items and not even earned £15 poounds yet, and i got to make £20 to activate my paypal account, and i wanted to use what i earned on other artists pictures (wail) oh well hopefully more will sell fingers crossed and it was only a matter of time before they done it Dawn
LoneAngel, about 1 month ago
OUCH and OUCH again
6point1, about 1 month ago
dang!!
theyellowfury, about 1 month ago
What about us in the land of Ire? We get caught for VAT too. Stinking Bertie Ahern taxes the bollix out of us.
Samuel Durkin, about 1 month ago
It seem redbubble do eventually pay you in sums less then £20 i got my paypal payment for £13 recently.
and BOOO to Tax.
RedBubble in reply to Dave Pearson’s comment, about 1 month ago
Dave – well that complicates things. The rules outside the UK are pretty much the same as the rules inside … so books should be VAT free. But at the moment our software doesn’t support this. I think the sort term solution will be to handle any of these problems by hand – we can organize a one off repayment to the buyer.
Hilton Briscoe, about 1 month ago
damn! lol
hilarydougill, about 1 month ago
Sounds about right, the Government have to get their money from somewhere to waste.
RedBubble in reply to dawndavies’s comment, about 1 month ago
The threshold for payment is US$20 (or equivalent in other currencies). So you should have enough for a PayPal payment when the next payment run is done.
pmorgan, about 1 month ago
What a wonderful government we have!
Any room for another graphic designer/photographer and his family over there?
Thank for the heads up on this!
Cleburnus, about 1 month ago
I’ve moved back to the USA as UK will tax the air you breathe.
RedBubble in reply to theyellowfury’s comment, about 1 month ago
Just the UK at the moment – we ship a lot of stuff to the UK so we tackled this tax system first. Next we’ve got to tackle the French, German and Irish tax systems. Lucky us.
Chris Clark, about 1 month ago
it’s about time Gordon Brown and his pal Alastair Darling were told to get off, I do not see them paying for my camera gear or printing costs or anything else for that matter, just a continual take, take, take, take and more take, ...................... it’s about time the Brits voted with their feet and had a tantrum in London.
OMG that makes me feel better now
dawndavies, about 1 month ago
oh wow thanks a lot, i did not know that, silly me, well i had better start making a list again, thanks so much for letting me know Dawn lol god i am so excited now
Chris Clark, about 1 month ago
ANY JOBS AT RB GREATFULLY APPRECIATED, NEED HELP WITH THE RELOCATION COSTS…................LOL
RedBubble in reply to Chris Clark’s comment, about 1 month ago
Two of the RB crew are moving to London in a couple of months to set up the London RB office. Who would have thunk it?
Bevsimages, about 1 month ago
I’m with Chris lol…Thanks for letting us know red bubble…Please buy my artwork now before it goes up…..Ta Bev, Cumbria, Uk… ;) x
hardhhhat, about 1 month ago
RB – Do you know how expensive it is to move to London? surely it would be better to move to a cheaper town/city in the UK?
Excellent on the TAX front I haven’t sold anything yet and now the price goes up so I might as well leave ;)
Paul Gibbons, about 1 month ago
I am glad this tax will be paid at source rather than an unsuspecting buyer being hit with an unexpected tax bill.
I think I might advertise my VAT FREE work while I can … only 2 days to go !!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Redbubble
Thanks British Government (NOT!!!)
theyellowfury, about 1 month ago
Thanks RB. You could try just not telling them, they’re pretty amateurish.
Steve Sharp, about 1 month ago
Good old Gordon Brown – taking more money from our artistic pursuits to fund his international skullduggery. Tosser.
David Harris, about 1 month ago
This is typical British Govenment!!! I would not mind but they are a buch of buffons manageing our money!! And it’s not like it is even a great country anymore!!!
Sick to death of being taxed to death!!!! Sorry for the rant and thanks RB for letting us know!!
Martin Kirkwood, about 1 month ago
That sucks. How can the UK Government charge VAT on purchases made outside the UK.?
shitehawk, about 1 month ago
A very interesting site to look and to consider is http://www.paypalsucks.com/
RedBubble in reply to hardhhhat’s comment, about 1 month ago
Yep – they’re currently looking for a empty shoe box to rent. Tom just returned from a weekend in the London rain – I’ll give him one year before he wants to move back to the sunshine!
shitehawk, about 1 month ago
In reply to Steve Sharp, I have to suggest that GB is not EVEN a tosser
RedBubble in reply to Martin Kirkwood’s comment, about 1 month ago
Even though the purchase is made in Australia the product is imported into the UK and the British government wants to tax anything imported. I guess that’s why the world still has smugglers.
JohnG, about 1 month ago
Hey, it could be a whole lot worse, they could be starting one of their witch hunts for non VAT payers, which would result in what it normally does. IE, the rich couldn’t give a monkies about the VAT, and can probably evade it anyway, and the poor people who might actually make a little extra cash, which would improve their life vastly have to cough up. Don’t it make yer proud, I say, lets all sing the national anthem or something. The only thing were export nowadays is injustice.
shitehawk, about 1 month ago
reply to RB: this is the incontravertible proof that Robin Hood never died
Linda Ridpath, about 1 month ago
I lived in Australia once for a long time…... i am beginning to wonder why i came back!!!! it stinks
John Nelson, about 1 month ago
A hypothetical enquiry to RB (or anybody with accounting skills out in the UK) about the VAT status on goods sold. We as individual artists (some self employed, some not) list our goods on RB for sale and pay a fee to you for any we sell. Surely if we are traders and not liable for VAT because our turnover is insufficient then the goods we sell through whatever agent (RB being an agent) we use should not be liable for VAT and on the other hand if we are VAT registered traders then surely VAT can be reclaimed on items sold? I don’t profess to be very knowledgeable in this field and so any thoughts will help me understand the best way forward.
Steve Sharp, about 1 month ago
In response to RedBubble, have you got any plans to set up a printing centre in the UK? And how would that impact on the VAT, if the product was produced here? (I’m guessing that it would still be liable for VAT).
hardhhhat, about 1 month ago
RB – I work in London and to be honest it doesn’t rain very often – I have a long walk to the station and have got wet a couple of times in the last 6 years… A shoe box is about £500,000 in West London but move out to Romford and you may get a couple of rooms for that price ;o) – If Tom every wants to meet up for I beer I’d show him around London.
If you need any networking/security done – hint hint.
hikickry, about 1 month ago
well, this is a bummer, i’ve only made one sale and i’m not expecting too many more now :( cheers for the heads up tho :)
Martin Kirkwood, about 1 month ago
We have thing in the UK called Import Tax. I’ll pay one or the other but VAT (value added tax) aswell? Sheesh!!!
Cathie Tranent, about 1 month ago
How exciting. RB will have London Bureau!! Sorry about your tax!
Martin Kirkwood, about 1 month ago
I’m going to try emigrating to Australia. I’ve heard the weather is better too. :)
Steve Sharp, about 1 month ago
and in response to shitehawk, you’re probably right!
Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown
Thieving little runt
Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown
Money grabbing **
Taking from the poor
To fund his phoney war
Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown
hardhhhat, about 1 month ago
John Nelson is right – this is from the direct.gov.uk website about VAT in the UK:
Businesses with annual sales below £67,000 (2008-2009) don’t have to register for (and therefore charge) VAT, but they may choose to do so voluntarily. If they don’t, the price you pay for their goods or services may be cheaper than if you bought the same goods or services from a VAT-registered supplier.
JohnG, about 1 month ago
ps, no singing, they’ll charge you for royalties and then tax that as well.
John Nelson, about 1 month ago
in response to steve sharp:
I think your song should be adopted as the ‘new’ national anthem of Great Taxed Britain
1stAngel, about 1 month ago
Sometimes I hate living in England!
RedBubble in reply to John Nelson’s comment, about 1 month ago
Now you’re asking a hard question. My understanding with imports is that the rules are different – and it doesn’t matter if the artist is VAT registered or not. At the moment all products are imported into the UK (although we’re setting up manufacturing operations in the UK later this year). When we do this the situation will no doubt become even more complicated.
And just to be clear – the artist is not liable for any VAT collection / administration – the buyer is charged and RB sends the cheque off to HMRC.
hardhhhat, about 1 month ago
I am not a business but a sole trader and would be very lucky to earn from sales £67,000 a year :o) I wish….
Here is another quote from that site you may find interesting as RB mentioned the goods come from outside the EU:
VAT is a tax that you pay when you buy goods and services in the European Union (EU), including the United Kingdom. Where VAT is payable it’s normally included in the price of the goods or service you buy. Some goods don’t attract VAT.
JohnG, about 1 month ago
catchy isn’t it, I’ll have to teach it to my son, with a few dum de dums in the appropriate places, erk herm…
shitehawk, about 1 month ago
The registration threshold for UK VAT is £64000 with effect 1st April 2008. Does this not apply to us small people?
RedBubble in reply to Steve Sharp’s comment, about 1 month ago
Yep – we’ll set up UK production over the next 3 – 6 months (and probably some production in Germany). The situation becomes more complex at this stage – because we won’t have to charge VAT for those artists who aren’t registered (but we’ll still have to charge VAT for shipping).
John Nelson, about 1 month ago
Thanks RB – I understand what you are syaing more clearly now. This is actually not a VAT but an Import Duty which is different and something I have been liable to pay on items I have imported in the past. I think when you begin manufacturing in the UK and shipping to the UK (and maybe Rep Ireland) from UK then this Import Duty can be removed and prices should be able to revert back to what they are now.
All I can say is: RB hurry up and get producing here in the UK before the buyers stop buying from UK artists.
RedBubble in reply to Martin Kirkwood’s comment, about 1 month ago
There are some other additional import duties – but I think we manage to miss them all. The British government does like it’s tax!
Darkness666, about 1 month ago
thanks fer letting us know :o)
JohnG, about 1 month ago
Oh, just a thought, my sole purchaser (who I suspect is my mum, bless her) would definitely stop buying my stuff if she thought she had to pay VAT as well, it’s not that good.
RedBubble in reply to John Nelson’s comment, about 1 month ago
I think it is VAT (Import Duties are another tax). There’s a whole bunch of information here
hardhhhat, about 1 month ago
RB – That’s the very page I had been looking at and this one
John Nelson, about 1 month ago
OK this is getting more and more complex to follow as the rules on the link RB listed state
2.3 Are import duties and import VAT always payable?
No. Customs duty is waived if the amount of duty is less than £7.
Import VAT is not payable on:
commercial consignments eg goods purchased over the internet with an intrinsic value not exceeding £18, but this does not include alcohol, tobacco products, perfume or toilet waters….
Now what happens if some purchaser only buys 2 or 3 cards for example. The UK GVT state the duty will not be collected yet the prices will have been raised to cover such payment.
I appreciate this is quite complex for a company to follow but surely the best possible course of action would have been to let the buyer be subject to any charges the UK GVT want to levy when the goods are delivered. Prices would not need to rise online and most small purchases will be exempt anyway.
John Nelson, about 1 month ago
One final question which does not seem to have been asked is what will the UK ‘new’ prices be?
Mona & Madge R..., about 1 month ago
To all you guys at Red Bubble thanks so much for taking on the cost over the last few months. I accept what you have to say. Thought of having a uk outlet?
Anthony Hedger, about 1 month ago
I was wondering when the blood suckers were going to get their bite of the pie
Natalie Tyler, about 1 month ago
Thanks RB for letting us know! Will VAT be added when we go to the checkout?
RedBubble in reply to John Nelson’s comment, about 1 month ago
That’s correct John – most orders are well above 18 GBP so this is a bit of an edge case. And in this instance we can reimburse the VAT. The experience of having a person arrive on your door step demanding money before delivery is still a pretty unpleasant one … imagine if you were sending it as a gift to someone in the UK?
RedBubble in reply to Natalie Tyler’s comment, about 1 month ago
I think it’s going to be included in the price – so folks see an all inclusive price.
RedBubble in reply to Mona & Madge Rose-Croft’s comment, about 1 month ago
It’s on it way!
RedBubble in reply to John Nelson’s comment, about 1 month ago
So my understanding is that VAT is 17.5% in the UK. The prices will vary depending on the product and the artists markup.
pentangled, about 1 month ago
Yikes! Better get shopping!!
You guys having been paying our VAT? You guys are the best! Thank you! :o)
Sophie Watson, about 1 month ago
Bloody British Government, they even take our money when we DIE!
John Nelson, about 1 month ago
Thanks RB for all your help and explanations. I don’t wish to come across as complaining because all we want to do is display and sell our work.
What happens if someone in UK buys work through RB from a US or AUS RB member for example? Is there still duties and VAT to pay and if so by who? I am unclear as to why no other countries prices increase when they are being shipped to the UK.
megankerr, about 1 month ago
Hey, Tom, try out the UK but don’t live in London! In that city, every time you step out your front door you open a vein and bleed money until you get back home. At home, of course, you pay council tax ;-)
But hey, why complain about tax when it all goes to towards the good cause of subsidising taxes for millionnaire non-doms? It’s like Robin Hood with dyslexia these days.
megankerr, about 1 month ago
P.S. Oxford’s nice. I’ll take you punting!
beckie, about 1 month ago
Naffa cakes! Thanks for letting us know!!!
and thanks for paying it all this time! How very awesome of you!! :o)
RedBubble in reply to John Nelson’s comment, about 1 month ago
It doesn’t matter where the artist is based. The British government wants to charge VAT on things imported from outside the EU – there’s more useful information here
ch3rrybl0ss0m, about 1 month ago
Awhhh…. shucks! Money…
Cynthia Adams, about 1 month ago
RIP OFF BRITAIN…THIEVING GITS…I will have to buy some works now but thanks RB for the heads up…..if you want digs come to me…I will put you up in a put you up…lol.
Cheers RB….POXY ENGLAND…DAMN THE BLOODY GOVERNMENT!!
Kerry Lunt, about 1 month ago
Next they will be asking you to declare your intrastats
teresa robinson, about 1 month ago
LETS ALL BUGGER OF SOMEWHERE ELSE THIS COUNTRY STINKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deborah Parkin, about 1 month ago
I agree with Teresa :)
This bloody country, grrr… I am so angry (and i am usually mild mannered) – is this so they can pay for another war nobody wants – it makes my blood boil.
Samuel Durkin, about 1 month ago
I thought art work was a lower VAT tax bracket. Maybe that only original artwork though.
Austin Texas, about 1 month ago
*GO THE BLUE LAKERS TEAM *
whoops wrong journal
sorry
Andrew Nawroski, about 1 month ago
They will tax your last breath if not already
revad, about 1 month ago
This is excellent news.
Not the tax of course (although not all tax is wasted), but rather the fact that RB are collecting it and dealing with HMG direct. This means I can now without reservation recommend RB to my UK buyers.
And once local production comes on-stream there will be an even larger incentive to use RB and less of a carriage issue if RB can expand to include larger products in the future.
Keep up the excellent work and well done to everyone invloved.
Elizabeth Cannon, about 1 month ago
If nothing else, reading all the comments in response to your tax announcement has really made me laugh! You are a great bunch of people on Red Bubble and I am glad to be part of the group. Guess we’ll all have to drop our profit!!! margins to make up for the shortfall (wish I had a profit margin – boo hoo!
Graeme Pettit ..., about 1 month ago
Hmmmm. Dubious about all this – Its a nice try RB, and certainly a sensible approach – but with a higher price to the buyer as it includes VAT at source, folk in the UK will also now get screwed for import duty as well probably. Sales figures are not wonderful for most individuals in any case, but this will probably kill selling higher value quality RB products such as the canvasses into the UK stone dead as buyers will get hit twice.
What happened to opening ofices in London and New York as I’m sure Ive seen a reference to these locations somewhere on RB in the officially bit in the past – or am I mistaken?
Laurie McClave, about 1 month ago
Hello Socialized Healthcare! sorry but we are paying up the yang for health costs here in the US I would pay more taxes if they would reform the system here and get rid of insurance companies that are fat and happy!
Tim Hatcher, about 1 month ago
Typical! They don’t miss a trick!
Natalie Tyler, about 1 month ago
@Graeme – Peter just mentioned they were sending troops to London to start a UK base in the next month or so (it’s lost in the responses above) ;)
“Yep – we’ll set up UK production over the next 3 – 6 months (and probably some production in Germany). The situation becomes more complex at this stage – because we won’t have to charge VAT for those artists who aren’t registered (but we’ll still have to charge VAT for shipping).”
Martin Kirkwood, about 1 month ago
I pay income tax.
I paid VAT on all my art materials.
I paid VAT on the purchse of my computer.
I pay VAT on my internet connection.
I pay VAT on the electricity that keeps my computer powered up.
Please guys DO NOT under ANY circumstances purchase my prints. I’ll have to pay bloody Income Tax all over again.
Faizan Qureshi
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about 1 month ago
:O :O
Why can’t we go back to using the old service? This only started happening when you guys switched to UPS!
Angela Harburn, about 1 month ago
What a flipping shame- thank you so much British Government !!!
Thank you for letting us know!
Graeme Pettit ..., about 1 month ago
Might sound like sour grapes a bit from me, for which I apologise, but I’m beginning to feel RB is a victim of its own success. Thanks Natalie – I missed that post scanning the replies.
Just for the sake of interest, my highest viewed image on here, has been on 6 months, and still has less than 300 views. I put an image on show on Fotopic, which had had few views here, but received just short of 500 views at last check, and whilst it sat unviewed (well, 15 views) for a couple of weeks, over one week, it picked up the rest!
Kinda makes me wonder where my work is best off! As a community, RB is the best, but for views and sales, it has a long way to go yet in my opinion, and folk I have spoken too lately who are RB members are feeling the same thing deep down. RB is easy – wonderfully so, and friendly, but is not bringing in much by way of sales for the vast majority, and there are some excellent works here on RB which never get seen and deserve sales – in that, I am NOT including my own. RB are to be lauded for taking the initiative, certainly, but when I buy anything from abroad, inc RB, I tend to buy a lot in one hit, so get clobbered for import duty – which means I have to then have a day off to go collect the purchase and pay the dues – makes it a bit pointless when I can get reproduction done in the UK cheaper to the same quality. I will watch the London developments with interest! – But these comments are moving off the VAT topic, so I’ll close here for now.
traceyanne, about 1 month ago
Buy BUy BUY!
1stAngel, about 1 month ago
Moving to London is a silly idea… It isn’t even the centre of England any more, Manchester is. Not only that but, it is twice as expensive to live in London as Manchester.
1stAngel, about 1 month ago
Graeme, in answer to your post about sales, don’t forget that over ALL the internet at the moment there is a mass decline in sales from all ventures, but especially art. America is having a downturn in their economy, as are people in the UK. People are more worried about keeping their homes at present than buying art, and although corporations will always need art for Directors etc, they tend to not use sites like RB.
But, like all things economic, this will pick up once the general buying public have confidence in their economy again.
AndyReeve, about 1 month ago
Looks like you have opened a pot of worms there my friend.
Debbie Black, about 1 month ago
aw guys! thanks for being complete angels and paying up for us thus far….
am i right in assuming then that all prices, site-wide, will be increased by a further 17.5% – what about postage – is that affected too?
John Nelson, about 1 month ago
I am still a little confused and rather more concerned about what you are intending to do regarding increasing UK based RB members prices only.
Imagine these 2 scenarios; Mr Smith in USA buys one of Mr Jones prints who is based in UK. Mr Jones prices have been increased by 17.5% to cover this charge the UK GVT want for imports and so the item is shipped to Mr Smith in USA by the RB production depot in USA. The print comes nowhere near the UK and still Mr Jones prices reflect a higher cost to the rest of the world. Where does the increased charge that Mr Smith in USA has paid go to? Certainly not the UK GVT as no importation has taken effect.
Mr Jones in UK buys a print from Mr Smith in USA at his reasonable price because there is not a 17.5% increase to cover the UK GVT tax. The item comes through the post and Mr Jones gets a knock on the door by Royal Mail saying customs duties are due because its an import and from outside the EU. Mr Jones now has to pay the cost of the import duties, which by the way is standard practice for any purchaser when buying from outside their own economic area.
Mr Smith in the USA is now getting favourable prices listed on RB compared to Mr Jones because RB have decided to increase retail prices to reflect IMPORT / VAT DUTIES.
I have concerns that RB have decided to take the mantel up for ALL UK buyers on RB by discriminating against RB members in UK. We may sell our work abroad and still the higher price is listed, and the very listing of a HIGHER price during this credit crunching time is enough of a deterrent to put off any buyers no matter where in the world they are. RB are also penalising members elsewhere when they buy (or probably not from Thursday) from UK members because our price is higher. Offers of ‘refunds’ to these buyers does nothing to help UK sellers and only complicates the situation for everyone.
I implore RB to simply place a disclaimer on their checkout pages indicating what is, and has been, common practice over many years – simply that purchasers of goods should be aware that IMPORT & CUSTOMS duties may be payable on delivery by the purchaser. That way the responsibility still remains with the buyer but is less complicated for RB because they have done their legal duty in displaying the notice, less stressful for sellers in UK because our prices will be comparable with the rest of the world, and everyone will know where they stand and less unfavourable for non UK buyers because they will not be penalised for buyer from a UK member.
I know there is a lot of information contained within this post and am happy to accept a bubblemail direct with your reasonable response.
UK based members should not think I am being annoying with this; I am simply of the opinion that RB’s good intentions may be unfairly baised against us and want every possible avenue examined before we lose out again because of complicated methods when a simple disclaimer notice at checkout is sufficient.
CrazyDistortion, about 1 month ago
I’m just guessing this counts to anything to Wales as well?
Damn. I swear they’ll tax people going into public toilets soon enough.
And, would you only base a printing centre in London? Or could there be a welsh based one. Might be cheaper for you to move to somewhere like Cardiff or Newport than going to London. Even though it does have it’s fair share of rain…. and more rain… he-he. Just an idea like. =).
Debbie Black, about 1 month ago
I think rb have done a very admirable thing in actually explaining the reasons behind the increase, and admitting it is only the uk prices with an increase at the moment, they could easily have put the prices up and said very little, letting us believe it was site-wide.
I think – correct me if i’m wrong please admins! – the extra VAT charge will be added only if you shop within the uk – so the prices of our cards/prints will not be increased for buyers elsewhere….
tiggermoth, about 1 month ago
Fair enough!
MissyVix, about 1 month ago
dont you just love our government, they raise the price of everything apart from our wages! grrrrr….thanx for letting us know redbubble!
Terry Krysak, about 1 month ago
I wonder if this same thing applies to Canada as well?
We do have a VAT here called the GST (Goods and Services Tax), but I don’t know if it applies to artwork purchased outside of the country.
Have not been able to find anything on the web about this yet, but will keep looking.
PaulBradley, about 1 month ago
Goodness, I didn’t realise you chaps had been stumping up the VAT payments. What awfully nice chaps you are. On the plus side I’ve not been very successful on RB, so I’ve managed to save you a fortune!
Graham Ettridge, about 1 month ago
Oh well, another goldmine for our useless government….lol! Thanks for all your hard work RB, we appreciate your great service. And thank you for clarifying this for us :)
JohnG, about 1 month ago
Come on folks, as UK people we all know that if there is even the remotest possibility of the little personl, making a single penny, out of any activity, the government will want, no demand it’s share. It has always been the case, always will. It’s just that in the computer age we are all actually making it easier for them. And it’s gonna get worse. Sell your art at a boot sale if you don’t want to pay tax, but believe me, if you do well, they will still find you.
Gaina, about 1 month ago
Bah, I’m up to my neck with Mr Brown and is bleepin’ taxes! shakes fist.
Lloyd Harvey, about 1 month ago
o wank…
Darren Burdell, about 1 month ago
Taxed on what we earn
Taxed on what we spend
Taxed on what we save
Taxed on what we use
And when we croak, if there’s anything left they take that too!!!
Rant over!
Natalie Tyler, about 1 month ago
@ John Nelson – I may have got the wrong end of the stick (it’s been a long day) but I understood that it’s not the prices of our own work that will change but the prices we pay if we want to buy something from an artist on RedBubble? So if I’ve set the price of an item of my work at £20 it will stay the same price for everyone apart from those in the UK who will pay a little extra to cover VAT.
floto, about 1 month ago
You could just post them as gifts… nicely wrapped with a ribon on top! Then they would be free! I am in the UK… If some one buys my work from Ausie.. I’m guessing they do so at the cheaper price (with out VAT)
... I hope you people are all adding the £2.45 you make every year on here to your income tax decleration Don’t forget Gordon wants a piece of that pie too!!
Oneof42, about 1 month ago
death and taxes . . .
Cvail73, about 1 month ago
if it all goes to taxes, let me think. If we donate our sales to a charity via RB, how would that work?
Joanne Conlon, about 1 month ago
doom gloom doom gloom HANG ON I SAY!... i think we’ve all missed a vital point here….rb have been paying our vat all this time? how ruddy lovely!
CinB, about 1 month ago
oh the joys of living in Britain yet one more thing to tax us on! no big surprise there. thanks for letting us know RB, very kind of you. :0)
Blackgull, about 1 month ago
Jings crivens helpmabob! Time Scotland was a nation again.
andrew williams, about 1 month ago
where’s robin hood when you need him
BarryNorton1, about 1 month ago
The only reason we are on this planet seems to be to pay, pay ,pay for some fools ideas of how we should live, eat, travel & die
berndt2, about 1 month ago
Argh. And I just moved here two weeks ago. The weather is colder and the Redbubble gear is now more expensive as well. This had better start paying off soon 8))
SEspider, about 1 month ago
“Ouch” is right.
Hate to see the bills you guys ave been having to pay. Either way, we all thank you for that work and dedication RedBubble’s done to help us sell our art.
But you can’t do everything, and we know this. So thank you for the good run. ;)
Cynthia Adams, about 1 month ago
Just a thought here to get over the VAT for the U.K.Wonder if our friends in Australia,and the States could receive the purchases for us and ship them over to the U.K.! and mark as gift items,,bit of a pain in the rectum but this way we get our products and Customs and Excise are none the wiser…would this be possible as I do this wheeling and dealing on Ebay.
Anyway,I have bought a few bits tonight and I got in just in time…sorry I can’t buy anymore though…Borasic Lint NOW..DOH!!
Nat Hall, about 1 month ago
The Sherriff of Downing Street strikes again…
...Just as the Creative Industries are being encouraged around the realm…
It’s just a thieving game that never stops.
footie, about 1 month ago
FWIW imports from within the EU are zero rated. If you buy a camera from France on the internet, it will come with no VAT. Its one of those odd little quirks of the EU VAT system. Imports from outside of Euro land, however will be taxed. I’m not sure if Art is VATABLE (I am VAT registered btw, but not as artist)
Xavier Shay
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about 1 month ago
@John Nelson: USA buying from UK will not attract a VAT charge. Only orders that have a shipping address in the UK will be charged VAT (at this stage). It is unrelated to the location of the seller.
Mr Smith does not pay tax when he orders from outside the UK (regardless of seller).
Mr Jones does pay tax when he orders from within the UK (regardless of seller).
Hope that clears things up
panda65, about 1 month ago
Wouldn’t it be simpler if we just overthrow the government?
Just a thought.
panda65, about 1 month ago
Overthrew, sorry.
RedBubble in reply to Debbie Black’s comment, about 1 month ago
That’s correct Debbie.
RedBubble in reply to Graeme Pettit Photography’s comment, about 1 month ago
Tom and Ed are moving to London in late May to set up the UK office, and Tom’s just returned from Germany where we’re looking to have all the European t-shirts printed. We’re still probably 3-6 months away from having all products made in the UK.
RedBubble in reply to John Nelson’s comment, about 1 month ago
Hi John – we are not increasing UK based members prices. We are adding VAT to all orders shipped to the UK. Your customers in the US, Australia, South Africa et cetera don’t have to pay UK VAT.
RedBubble in reply to Debbie Black’s comment, about 1 month ago
Hi Debbie – for all orders shipped to the UK the price will rise by 17.5% and the VAT applies to shipping as well.
Debbie Black, about 1 month ago
thanks for the reply – you just confirmed what i had initailly thought :)
perfectly understandable – if we were buying from anywhere else this would apply so we can’t really complain!!!
Angel Ortiz, about 1 month ago
this might isteresting for some one I just copy and pasted from other site
I would post the whole article but it is extremely long. http://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=Columns&article_no=3605&%3E%3Cimg%20src=
The basics are this. The US government and European governments are trying to make it so that all artworks, even those that are registered with the copywrite be registered with a privately owned registry office.
Each artwork, photograph, song, poem and literary work would have to be registered with a minimum $5 fee. Otherwise the artwork is considered “Orphaned” and will be allowed to be used by the general masses for anything. THIS IS