Charity?
Every time you buy something to show you support a charity, you are reducing the amount of money that actually goes to helping.
Next time you consider buying that breast cancer shirt.. remember that only a portion of your money is actually going to the cause and the rest is an investment in your public image.
If you are concerned enough to want to support a not for profit organisation, why not just ‘donate’ instead of purchasing.
I’m not against publicly supporting charities, I just question the motive behind the current trend in charity merchandise.
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NooneSpecial
Very very good point.
jemimalovesbigted
yeah its a bit like putting on those big expensive parties to get people to fork over cash! DER! Just give the freaking money that goes on the cost of feeding a bunch of twats directly to the cause!!
Jafrankie
no doubt. thats why movember is so cool. gets the message displayed publicly without need for merch. and i get to have a dirty moustache for a month. bbeeeeaaaauuutiful.
sjem ©
... all proceeds from this tee go to the R.A.A.E Foundation.
Realtors Against Animals on Ecstasy
raae replied
HAHA ..cunt.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to highlight that there is 0% mark-up on this glorious item.
roybarry
Such a valid point, eloquently made!
Lenny36
Fuckenay raae. I totally agree. Sadly it is a fact that many people will not part with their hard- earned unless they recieve at least something for it. The charities would argue that getting at least part of the money is better than nothing and that displaying a ribbon or something is raising awareness of the cause. I really like the shirt though. How about selling it and donating the profits to charity for a delicious double-irony?
raae replied
Thanks Lenmister. I totally don’t have a gripe with the charities trying to squeeze some green out of us with their quality merchandise. I think it sucks that it has to come to that.
The raising awareness thing… this is true. It would be cool if there was some way around it costing the charities a fuck load to make that stuff.
Artcool
Girl: I just went to my drawers and threw away all the T shirts I got running all those half marathons on behalf of cancer, heart disease,and women’s causes.
WHAT? You weren’t talking to me!?
Lucan Industri...
It’s about spreading the message you muppets. If everyone sees everyone else in breast cancer shirts, they’ll all go and get one. If one person gives a tenner to a charity they get no publicity or awareness and no else does. It’s way better to get shed loads of tiny, than one large.
It’s no different to the way coke advertise. Works for them, and you get to feel good.
Actually another fucking point is if you don’t give people anything except a ‘good felling’ they’ll give you spare change, if you give them a shirt they’ll give you a tenner and you’ll get about 7 bucks of it. And everyone will see what you did, and the message spreads memetically.
For fucks sake.
Lucan Industri...
Despite ‘good felling’ being an amusing typo that I’m now going to use as a sexual term, I meant ‘good feeling’.
Natch.
raae
Oh jesus…
You’re missing the point.
I do agree that it raises awareness but that is only a fortunate by product of the only way you can entice the ‘me’ generation to donate a shit. There are better and more economical ways for charities to receive donations AND circulate merchandise but who is interested in doing that these days?
Felling sounds like feltching… which i know is a rude word but can’t quite remember what it means… and don’t think i should google it from my work computer. But what i WILL do is check from someone else’s machine when they run off to the bathroom… and then make it their desktop image.
Lucan Industri...
Do not look up felching.
It’s not a ‘fortunate by product’ it’s the main aim. You have to get people talking. Look at the charity ads in adbusters, they’re intense these days. In-fucking-tense. They need people wearing the shirts because no one will donate otherwise, they’ve adjusted to their climate. It’s shit, but if you get the people who donate these days to give more money and take less then all the ‘almosts’ won’t donate at all.
Celebrity endorsement. That’s where it’s at.
It’s all about the long tail these days.
All I’m saying is lots of people might be wearing a breast cancer shirt to spread the message, having spent a huge proportion of time and effort supporting the cause, or because their mother is dead, and wanting people to know about the disease. And this is pretty offensive to that.
It’s like bulemia rates in Fiji, do you know when TV came to Fiji? 1995, do you know what the bulemia rates were then? 0. Do you know what they were in 1997? 11% of all teenagers had bulemia. Did you know that? probably not, would you if the charity raising money had convinced all the kids to wear tees about it? Yup.
There’s an awful lot of crap happening everywhere. Even the charities have to fight for attention.
raae replied
You can’t attack my personal knowledge of random charities in order to support your point. Let me openly confess there are a billion and one things going on in the world that i know nothing about.
What I do have a firm grasp of is how i feel about this one issue… and you won’t see me dragging up other issues just to try and make your point seem less valid than it is.
I’m not against publicly supporting charities.. i’ve already said that in the description. So I don’t know your motive behind calling it offensive. If I got a red bubble dollar for every time you offended someone Lucan, i would have a few large canvas’s on my walls.
If it’s because of the cancer references… here is my random fact for the day. Apparently its average for every person in Australia to have one form of cancer in their life time. It’s a tough thing to face and I don’t think i know one person who hasn’t dealt with it at some stage.
If I am wrong and ‘people talking’ is the primary aim of charity paraphernalia – I am still proving my point. Society is totally over saturated with all this stuff at the moment.
Soon it is going to achieve the same result as a car alarm going off in a shopping centre car park. No one will give a shit.
Again I want to highlight the fact that this is questioning the motives behind people who wear that stuff. Your points about charities fighting for attention are totally valid – and that is where my issue is.
Fetching.
raae replied
PS im loving the ideas clash. This is the stuff that development and movement is made of and I don’t think it happens enough.
Lucan Industri...
“Again I want to highlight the fact that this is questioning the motives behind people who wear that stuff.”
They do it because charities want them to, goddamn it, because it helps their cause in the long run. It’s advertising. There’s too much going on. And my reference to a charity you know nothing about is totally justified, I can send the Stop Bulemic Fijians $10, or, I can send them $20 and get a shirt, which I will wear to my gentlemen’s club, then my good friend The Rt. Hon. Reginald Felcher Ramsbotham will say ‘Golly gosh, I had no idea what was going on in Fiji with that there vomiting thing, I think I’ll send them my Bentley’. And this is what the charity needs, I mean, probably not a big car, but you get the point. You hadn’t heard about them because they didn’t do the t-shirt thing. They’re adapting, evolving, this is positive.
And you point about cancer rates validates this, IT’S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE, FUCKING STAND UP AND START TALKING, tees are great billboards for this. You use them to spread messages about child abuse in this very portfolio.
If we don’t publicly support things in these times of 3 second attention spans, THEY’LL DIE.
So I think you are unjustified in questioning the motives of those who wear this stuff, and I think you are hypocritical in making a shirt to spread your message.
The real root of the problem is lack of education in general, lack of morals, principles, too much media, TV, computer games, too many PC laws, bad parenting, greed, affluenza, and a whole host of sociological issues that this isn’t targeting, the foundations are fucked, so the top floor is wobbly. The charities can’t broach this, they have AIDS stricken bulemic cancer patients to worry about. So they get on the bandwagon.
Yeah, I offend people, but in different circumstances I feel, but it’s beside the point, which is a tactic you just accused me of.
I sincerely believe the motives of the majority of people who do wear the stuff are pretty pure, and according to your stats it’s likely they’ve not only supported a charity but they have personally suffered, and I reckon they’d find that offensive to imply what they were doing was in fact band wagon jumping.
Lucan Industri...
Where is your retort?
raae replied
Well, I think it’s just boiling down to a difference of opinion… we could both keep this conversation up for infinity years and continue to butt heads without moving forward.
Your points are valid and im sure there are billions of people who will agree with you.
I still feel the same way. And honestly if we continued to agree about everything it would start to get creepy.
Lucan Industri...
I agree.
Oh.
IWML
ace shirt, ace comment debate… you’re both totally right.
1) maybe people will get offended, but it’s good to offend people.
2) some people donate money and don’t wear a t-shirt, and some people buy a shirt just to look ‘responsible’. i think both are true.
3) felching is either the slurping out of semen from someone’s anus, or the insertion of a rodent (depending on whose definition you believe).
4) there are millions of t-shirts we’ll never see – ‘spreading the word’ can only ever go so far. we can never know EVERTHING.
5) there are lots and lots of shallow fucks who DO just wear their ‘end world hunger’ rubber bracelets to look cool.
6) there are lots of people dying all the time in all sorts of horrible situations. must we make shirts for them all?
7) everyone is fucked, in their own small way. i certainly am.
8) at the same time, everyone is really really nice, in other small ways.
9) i think we should question ALL motives for EVERYTHING.
10) charity bandwagons are jumped ALL THE TIME!
11) and if, statistically, we’re all gunna die from cancer, maybe we should shut up about it and concentrate on LIVING instead. (my mum died from sudden unexpected cancer 4 years ago, before you all go off at me for not knowing what i’m talking about. i know EXACTLY what i’m talking about.)
12) okay, rant over. nice shirts!
raae replied
Right on… my favourite poins are 6 and 9.
And thank you for the words… in my opinion, it really is important to question this stuff. Regardless of who is right or wrong i would like to think that a few people have read this crap and had a big think about it all.
Fireisoblivion
when I buy instead of donate i buy things that i will enjoy liek a brest cancer shirt i love the design of i know the mony goes to a good cause but i also enjoy the object i buy.
raae replied
That’s true – sometimes they have good quality merchandise.
I think unfortunately a lot of the products they sell are just ‘tokens’ that get tossed away after a while which is what bothers me.
Thanks for your comment! It’s a topic that could go around in circles forever…
KreddibleTrout
sing it.