Pilgrim

Fantasitic insight you visionary man you. :) I agree – I want them to open a section for digital artists – Maybe the Digibald Prize for digital portraits :) or at least have a section where 100% digital art is recognised as original art and not just “computer generated” art, as though the computer does all the work. As one commentator said, we may as well refer to traditional art as, “brush generated”. Anyway – well done and good luck!

Thank you Pilgrim.

Don’t worry about being wrong, just follow your convictions and do what you feel should be done. You may be surprised by how many share your viewpoint, and you may surprise yourself by being completely successful in the meeting. Luck to you, for the sake of all of us aspiring artists.

great to read your thoughts and to be inspired by where they lead

Good luck!

Fantastic! Shift some paradigms.

Sounds awesome Martin, great stuff, looking forward to hearing how this might develop!

Ditto…all of the above

I agree with you, everyone has the ability to decide, on what they consider to be beautiful art, and should’nt be held to ransom, by a few that believe, they know all that there is to know, about it.. Which is why, I’m glad RB frowns on critique. I wish you the best of luck at the meeting :))

WOW, i agree and good luck with the meeting, RB has definatley helped my art grow! The RB art installation would be amazing. Ur passion is inspiring!!!! Go team bubble :D

Hear hear.

Martin, you are an asset to the RB community…thank you!

Ikea art? LMAO! Know what you mean. Like mistaking a dish of satay chicken for a Jackson Pollack. Insult to the max. Hope the meeting goes well. All the best.

Yeah Martin it’s a really interesting discussion isn’t it? To me RB helps debunk the myth that art is only ‘art’ because it costs lots-or someone else says it’s art. RB (as does the digital revolution) forces the high art world to face it’s ultimate enemy – democracy! Good luck with the meeting. How exciting!

Good on you, Martin!

How right you are Martin,it really is time our society stepped into the century we live in.
The new Millenium brings new art forms,mediums,good luck.

David & Zorind,

My best wishes also for your meeting. If you approach it with the same passion, conviction and enthusiasm that has oozed from the ‘Bub from the outset, I’m sure you will have no problems with your “conversion”.

All my best wishes for the meeting martin. That sounds very good anyway.

I’m with you all the way Martin – good luck with the meeting!

Excellent! Shift the paradigms and shake it up!

Art touches the consciousness. It defies the boxes we put it in, the boundaries we put around it, and the words we use to conceptualize it. Since the human animal came to be, and until it ceases the same, it will express the infinite through art – using whatever medium is available or suitable to him.

It is unrelated to profit, popularity, religion or social norms. It is the expression of being that changes only as a reflection of our current situation on earth. Scratches on a cave wall, pixels on a screen, words of love and passion spoken softly from lovers lips to ears – art is art.

fantastic..well done…

...... and so, the saga continues….. as the Pilgrim intrinsically rises with the sun. He takes hold of his staff. The magical Red Bubble suspended behind, following as he sets out confront the ghost kings of Paradigm…

Well said Pilgrim! I won’t wish you good luck at the gallery, you won’t be needing it, your passion for art and what you’re trying to achieve with Red Bubble are inspiring. How lucky we are that you’re championing our art.

great writing….

thanks for believing in us as artists and providing such an amazing site for us to display our art. good luck!!

There is not just one kind of creativity. We are all busting our humps to be creative in everything we do. What was ‘art’ a while back was just that….back then. Doing digital art in the digital age seems to make sense to me.

Good on you go for it we should all be proud of what we create it is most def art how could it not be ???

this is huge, and brave! good luck!

Pilgrim, first let me thank you for your vision and for creating this community! Second, let me say that this website has led to a creative gene in my artist dna that was dormant for so long that I feel reborn! This website is visionary, and I expect in 5 years or maybe even sooner the whole online world of art will be familiar with and respectful of the mission, artistry, and vision that Redbubble will stand for and have established! thank you my friend! And thanks to all members who make this the best damn online art community I have ever known!

Well wriyyen and good luck.

very well written.

Hear hear Pilgrim – art to me is something that a person has created using idea and action from heart and soul. Whether a few scribbles on a plain piece of paper or the tallest sculpture in the land. Its what has gone into it that counts, and whether it costs 2 pence, or 2 million bucks – makes no odds to its beauty.

I’d like to thank you for being here and having this wonderful website and the creative thoughts and inspirations that you had then and you have now. Inspiration for all of us, is a Beautiful thing!! I don’t think anyone will have to wish you luck, I think you’ve been Well on your Way!!! :) I look forward to hearing about what the future holds for the RB….. Should be very exciting!!! :) Thanks again Pilgrim!!

Oh and I look forward to hearing all about what the future holds for the RB…. Should be exciting!!! :-)

this is what creating meaning is all about. thanks Pilgrim

Well written Martin!! At the major local art gallery the curator, an older gentleman, told one of my friends that he would never hang any digitaly created art in his gallery. Then she spun him around and pointed out the digital fractals hanging on the wall.

The other local art gallery’s curator asked me when I was going to come and do a one man show. This curator is less then half the age of the older curator I mentioned above.

The one constant in the universe is change!

Thanks for starting Redbubble along with Paul and Peter!! and being visionaries !

The Bub certainly has evolved me! :)

Thank you so much for this. I love that RedBubble offers me the opportunity to explore my creative side, view the work of others and seek their advice. Hopefully we can change the perceptions of the world. I wish you the best of luck with your meeting.

Thank you all for your lovely feedback and comments. I have a suspician that the head of a major gallery (albiet public) has an interest in maintaining a status quo where an art elite determines who can join the gang and who can’t. But we will see.

I think my work has improved tenfold since joining the Bubble :)

Good luck with the meeting and thank you for representing us!

In terms of selling the idea to the NGA, redbubble is more than an example of more affordable art. It represents a whole strata of artists and creative people that are otherwise not catered for in today’s society. It represents all those people who have intrinsic artistic ability and ambition but who have other priorities in life that prohibit them from doing art full time, or who live in a society that does not give monetary value to their work. It represents all those multiskilled people, those who make themselves have time for leisure activities, those who derive something more spiritual or meanigful from ‘creating’. It represents our collective desire to own and be surrounded by beautiful and meaningful things. It shows how important it is to reach out to others who also have an artistic nature. To create an installation in a modern art gallery would almost be a pictorial biography of the people who make up this bubble world and everything that our work and our interaction means to the definition of ‘art’

Sorry, I tend to ramble, hope that made sense. This community is so much more than the sum of it’s parts.

Go get`em Pilgrim!

Here, here! Have a great sell mate – you have an entire artistic community behind you!

Wow Jo, I think you summed up what I think of redbubble as well.

Wonderful Sentiments Martin. RB has certainly added to my creativity….there is sooo much inspiration to be found here!

Jo – Not rambling at all! Well said…....gave me goosebumps : )

Jo, thanks for your thoughts. Didnt even get a hint of ramble. Will try to take some of this passion and brilliance with me.

Wow Jo – hear hear ….

Martin, consider printing this dialogue so you can take it with you to the meeting.
We are Visual Artists all!
Let us know how the meeting goes.

all the best with your meeting and thank you for planting a seed

Thank you Martin and I agree with your vision of art. I so hope the meeting goes great!
Also I agree with Tom Godfrey, digiatl art needs to be approved as art too!

Also I wanted to add a lot of the children movies are created from digital art. So I feel our art should be recognised as another form of art.

Also I wanted to add a lot of the children movies are created from digital art. So I feel our art should be recognised as another form of art.

Well said Martin!!! Red Bubble is so unique in many aspects. I feel that RB is years ahead of its time. So kudos for coming up with such a brilliant idea that has become a village of artists from every walk of life. I feel privileged to be getting in at the ground level of what is sure to become a revolution in the world of art.

Nice one Mate

sounds wonderful/also once you have exhibited they will then sell RB cards in their shop….....

Years ago I lived in Bali. Many things made a deep impact on me particularly as I witnessed the people living their spirituality. It was not something that they picked up at one time of the week and then put down and went on with their lives – every momment was an acknowledgement of their spiritual aspect.
Similarly i would love to live in a world where art and music and other creative ways of expression are seen as our natural way of being.
At sometime in our history art and music ( sorry for me my art, music and writing are so linked I can’t seperate them) became the domain of the professionals – the experts and everyone else became the consumers of such or the observers. Yet everyone has the capacity to create.
I love that Redbubble is a space for everyone to become the artists. Everyone has a creative aspect and Redbubble helps liberate that in everyone.
So lets liberate our voices – just open your mouth as see what sounds come out. Pick up two stones and start clicking them together and see what rhythm emerges.
Let people live as the creative, artistic humans they are.
Thanks so much Redbubble for being.
Inishiata

Thank you for your comment on my journal. I certainly hope you’re right about the creativity! :D I think you will be. And what a fantastic point you make in this journal! I agree with you. And i’m sure your meeting will be very interesting!

I loved reading this journal entry. I have so many of these same thoughts – though centered less on the prices or how or where art is bought and sold, and more on the personal and spiritual definitions of what art is. I am moved to tears by some of the images I see here just as easily as I am with the rock art created thousands of years ago by native people’s or the museum originals of Gockel, Van Gough, or the likes. To me the definition of art is that it has the ability to move me.

Just found this thread Pilgrim – great ideas from you and I hope your meeting went well. That would have been a difficult pitch

fabulous commentary, sounds awesome!!!!
patricia

Wonderful….

Thank you Martin and I agree with your vision of art. I so hope the meeting goes great!
Also I agree with Tom Godfrey, digital art needs to be approved as art too. Here is hoping all goes well.

Pilgram, there is a time and place for all creation, intuitively no one can tell us when what we are doing is on time ,only the individual knows the time and place and goes on to make it happen. Hoping it is your time.

Excellent Martin. Good luck with the meeting.