Patriotism...

so does fear

agree!!

Its called simplicity I say taboo patriotism. Have come to that conclusion in life. We are on the same wavelength. lol :) Rock on spread the word.

Religion…

...causes bigger wars

AMEN!!! BEWARE THE FLAG-WAVERS!!! EXCESSIVE NATIONALISM/PATRIOTISM IS USED BY POLITICIANS AND CAPITALISTS FOR THEIR OWN AGENDAS!! BRAVO MATT, SUCCINCT WISDOM!!

it’s not a country people should be loyal to…
it’s other people
patriotism = brainwashing
which is easier to see if you live outside of the radar. ;-)

you should join the Art Action group… And you’d find plenty more… ;-)

Hmmmmm good debate matt, well i have to agree with reflexio, religion has caused more wars than anything else since time, no, since religion began….Followed very very very close by GREED, greed is the greatest killer to walk the planet…..It manifests in such small ways in all of us, cutting up another driver, buying a two for on offer right up to stomping across country borders…..Hmmm Patriotism in the extreme maybe but also maybe not as it is mainly kept within its borders context….Tis the love of your own people your own soil in a tiny tiny tiny corner of a big bad world, Patriarch, head of family a patriot a loyal servant of the family.. Anyhow, all this coming from a man whose group are called ‘Welsh’ artists or is that anarchists lol, whose rules on joining state you must be of welsh origin…...I am proud to be welsh and of the place i am from and of the people who raised and educated me….I am not of greed or religion, but if by declaring i am welsh makes me a war monger…...tis a sad day.

i met a welsh man once, he was as mad as a fucking hatter! hahaha!

And i think it is a good thing you do, and i am so pleased that you invited me to join such a wonderful group…...the use of ‘welsh’ seperates and thus forms its attachment to country, patriotism…....I would never wish to start a fight with someone because they said wales was shite ( and in rugby over the years there may of been times, lol) but if our way of life or liberty was under threat i would stand and be counted….Nothing wrong in being proud of your roots, i have moore problem in owning up that i am a human being than saying i’m welsh…..man is the most destructive creature on this planet….....Humans cause war !!!!! How do we get out of that one ?

Ah jenniferB has certainly met one by the sounds as that is usally what people say lol

IGNORANCE breeds HATE which leads to wars as well. I thought I’d join in!! :)

You are quite right. I am Russian but over 30 years I live out of that country. Unfortunately watching TV-news and political talk shows from Moscow I see hysteria of patriotism. The main ideas are we are the best, the most talented but all the world hates us. We are in circle of enimies which are greaming to control our resures.
That’s why we must be patriots and become stronger, stronger…
I am very disappointed with that.

Patriotism, religion, pride (often seen by many as good things), plus greed, stupidity, fear, racism etc etc… they’ve all been present in the mix.

Absolutely perfect!

along with a few idiots that take high places and then give themself a fat bonas instead of buying the much needed equipment that these idiots send true men and women that one day will realise what was it all for so big fat idiots get fatter and richer and the boys and girls that go to war DIE !!!!

I agree with the people comments. People cause wars… Like you said, usually patriotic, religious ones … but always humans. Every time, literally.

What about religious totalitarianism?

Yes, I agree Matt. You have a real point here

I sooo agree!! Short yet straight to the point!! Love it!!