Les Boucher

Les Boucher

Sanctuary Point, Australia

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WARNING TO MEMBERS

I would suggest that EVERY RED BUBBLE MEMBER click the following link as this could have an effect on the copyright of your art works.

Red Bubble have made some changes which affect all of us and, to me, they have done so without my knowledge.

Read on at this link

My suggestion would be to go to your account page and scroll to the bottom where you can click the box to remove the link….but I will leave it up to you to decide what is in your best interest after reading what is in the link.

EDIT
From the link posted by Aakheperure (see my post here) from “The Australian Copyright Council”:http://www.copyright.org.au/find-an-answer/brow... and, considering the amount of posts on this subject, I found the following item very interesting….
Can people scan and alter my photos without my permission? Who owns copyright in
the altered photo?

Scanning a photo to make a digitised version, or making a copy of an existing digital file,reproduces the photo and therefore generally requires the permission of the copyright owner(unless an exception to infringement applies).
If the other person creates a new artistic work using the scanned photo, he or she will own copyright in the new work. However, if the new work incorporates an important, distinctive or recognisable part of the original photo, the owner of copyright in the new work will need the original photographerʼs permission to reproduce and communicate it to the public.
The original photographer still owns copyright in the original photo.
Alteration of photos may, in some cases, infringe your moral rights in the work (the rights to be attributed as creator of a work, right not to be falsely attributed as the creator and the right of integrity against derogatory treatment of the work).

Remember that this is an Australian ruling and more information can be found on the link provided.

Comments

  • Barry Doherty
    Barry Dohertyabout 2 years ago

    Definitely a good idea. Unfortunate that RB chose to do this. However, do not be under any illusion that this will prevent your work from being pinned. Having the button only makes it a little easier, AND it gives the illusion that it is “all right” to do so.

  • G’Day Barry,
    It is a bloody joke…When I first joined RB it was on the understanding (and the wording constituted a legal contract between RB and myself) that red Bubble would do all in their power to protect the copyright of works by the individual artist. As you say RB are now saying come on down we are open for you to steal the work of artists and we wont stop you…in fact…we will help you to steal them.
    I’m just about ready to take this outside of RB and warn others to check out what is happening before they join.

    – Les Boucher

  • © Joe  Beasley IPA
    © Joe Beasley...about 2 years ago

    AND it gives the illusion that it is “all right” to do so.

    Which is what concerns some of us. There is the legal concept implied license

    Also scraper sites like www.picstopin.com are posting items taken from this site with PIN IT buttons. When pinned, they do not lead back to redbubble and the artist. If the artist sends a take down, picstopin leaves the images up, but blocks/redirect the searches by the artist for their work

  • I couldn’t agree more Joe. I I have mentioned in my reply to Barry (above) Red Bubble are sanctioning the theft of artists work, along with their copyright.
    I have had a gutfull of this crap.

    – Les Boucher

  • Ann Warrenton
    Ann Warrentonabout 2 years ago

    Thank you so much Les. xx

  • You are very welcome Ann

    – Les Boucher

  • andrachne
    andrachneabout 2 years ago

    Many thanks!I have clicked the box ,and hopefully this will remove the link!

  • You are most welcome…unfortunately I don’t think clicking the box will stop the problem altogether.
    I keep asking myself “what happened to the old RB where the artists copyright security was paramount?”

    – Les Boucher

  • Enivea
    Eniveaabout 2 years ago

    Many thanks Les! Another good reason to go elsewhere I reckon. RB is a far cry from the wonderful place it was when I joined several years ago. :-( Now they are just part of the pack…..

  • I couldn’t agree more….ever since RB headquarters moved to the USA things have gone down hill. I don’t know if it is just a mind set thing but, they have lost touch with the artists who keep them in a job.

    – Les Boucher

  • Garth Smith
    Garth Smithabout 2 years ago

    Thank you Les.
    I did notice that it had appeared but hadnt had time to investigate.
    Gone now.

  • You are very welcome Garth. It looks as though many members weren’t aware that RB had added this….I would have thought that “IF” RB were going to introduce something like this the option would be “click IF you want it” not “click if you DON’T want it"

    – Les Boucher

  • andrachne
    andrachneabout 2 years ago

    What is the alternative?

  • Maybe RB should have “first asked the members what they thought” before they made changes. To me,and as I have mentioned in my answer to Garth, RB went about this arse about face. The option should have been “Click if you WANT it” not " Click if you DONT want it"
    Personally I am thinking of moving on and giving RB the flick.
    When they are continually making decisions based on the mighty dollar and what is easier for them, rather than what is best for the very people that keep them in business – the artists – it is time for all members to start thinking of alternatives. As a moderator in several groups I am hearing a ground swell from members who are thinking of opting out of RB and, the only people to blame for this revolution by members are the RB management who, no matter how many time members contact them, continue to follow their own path with little or no thought for the members and the security of their work.

    – Les Boucher

  • Dale Lockwood
    Dale Lockwoodabout 2 years ago

    Thank you Les, I have found my work already pinned and I did not know this was happening. Am I to understand that pintrest now holds rights to reproduce my work without my knowledge or compensation for using said work? How can this be? I am disturbed.

  • G’Day Dale, as far as I can see* pintrest* have stolen your work and have infringed on your, as the artist, copyright. The copyright remains with the artist Unless they authorise use of their work. As things stand with this pinhead site anyone can copy your work and add it as their own work (and make money from any sales)….IT IS NOTHING SHORT OF ART THEFT and Red Bubble, by adding a link, are aiding and abetting in the theft.
    You mention that you have found your there…my suggestion would be to contact them with a take down notice,but I will leave it up to you to decide whether you want to do that or not. You may feel that it is a form of advertising of your work…..personally I don’t as it in no way credits the original artist.

    This is a messy situation that RB have placed their contributors (the very people who keep them in business) in.

    – Les Boucher