Sundog with a partially visible section of a 22 degree Halo over Antarctica.... by Juilee  Pryor

Photographic Prints

Size:
Finish:
$8.25
Available to buy on…

Sundog with a partially visible section of a 22 degree Halo over Antarctica.... by 


Ok chaps this image is a deviation from the IR images I’m trying to put up but….. not being one to back away from a challege …….:)
This was shot while flying over Antarctica one NYE a long time ago…. 1999 to be exact and its a very poor quality shot having had no love and having langished at the bottom of a very large box of similarly unloved negatives for nearly a decade but I’m not putting it up for its beauty but rather to help fill in gaps with two other IR shots I’ve recently posted. These shots Midnight over Antarctica and Zeus over Antarctica

Both these IR shots are somewhat of a mystery to me…. well Zeus over Antarctica certainly is… I just can’t quite work it out. Anyway some fella’s who shan’t be named don’t think I wouldn’t know a coronal arc from my backside so here you go fella’s. This shot was taken maybe a minute before I took the IR shots and bearing in mind that I am not an expert on atmospheric phenomena but rather an artist facinated by the odd and occasionally divinely inspiring play of light that turns up in my images …. particually when I use Infrared film…..I’m going to maintain that this is a circle not a parabolic arc and its a coronal arc around the sun…. which the plane I’m in is about to fly through….

But I’ll take feedback for sure….

and sorry again about the poor state of the image…. with more time it would be sparkly but I want to get this up…….

cheers chaps……:)

Tags

analogue, antarctica, clouds, corona, film, juilee_pryor, light, moon, night sky, sun dog

Comments

  • Peter Davidson
    Peter Davidsonover 6 years ago

    Actually, I like the distressed feel to this shot. It gives it an ethereal feel which is enticing. As to the effect, it looks to me very much like window distortion, particularly with perspex which is used in aircraft. Small surface scratches form a diffraction field and cause curved rainbow effects not unlike this. The fact it is vertical with a horizontal highlight tail seems to confirm it as non-atmospheric.

  • sunshine light of my life ….. the problem is I was actually there and saw it with my own eyes let alone with my cameras…. but oh well the armchair experts just know I can’t be right…. have you had a look at Zeus over Antarctic

    I’m thinking you could get the heavy duty boots out and give me a kick ove that one and all. And don’t forget the journal entry which expands on my insantity with the Muslim chappy and the Professor…….:)

    – Juilee Pryor

  • Dave Pearson
    Dave Pearsonover 6 years ago

    Looks to me more like she’s caught part of a 22deg circle with a sundog.

  • oi she has a name….. and she is right here you blooming chaps are enough to give a girl hives….

    – Juilee Pryor

  • Peter Davidson
    Peter Davidsonover 6 years ago

    Hi Juiliee, I did think of adding that you would also see this effect as well as your camera. It’s a mistake that has been made many times, aka flying saucers etc. I’m not an armchair expert, but I am talking from experience of the very same kind of thing while flying.

  • Peter…….it’s J….U….I…..L…..E…..E legacy of a french grandmother and no there were no flying saucers….. and not I’m not a basket case… this is what I saw and what I think it is…… so bite me you lot…

    – Juilee Pryor

  • Peter Davidson
    Peter Davidsonover 6 years ago

    Hi Dave, yup, that could also be a valid explanation!

  • glad to have facilitated this blokey love in…. I’ll just go and dust something shall I ?

    – Juilee Pryor

  • Dave Pearson
    Dave Pearsonover 6 years ago

    I’m sorry to read that you’ve taken this to be a “blokey love in” Juilee, or that my command of English is offensive to you. Could I encourage you to imagine a better motive for me? I do prefer it when people don’t try and get me to take responsibility for motives they’ve invented for me. Especially if they’re trying to paint it as some sort of of “battle of the sexes”.

    Thanks.

    Like I said in my BM, it can’t be a full Moon for two main reasons. The first is that, by definition, a full Moon would be opposite the Sun in the sky, it couldn’t be full at any other location. Moreover, given that you said (in BM) that the date was 1999-12-31 the phase of the Moon on that day was around this:

  • Col  Finnie
    Col Finnieover 6 years ago

    LOL, love it. Mad, seeing things, perspex, personally I don’t give a rats…it’s a great shot.

  • thanks Col…… I really appreciate your supportive feed back ……:)

    – Juilee Pryor

  • Ern Mainka
    Ern Mainkaover 6 years ago

    Yes Juilee ! This is a Sundog aka Parhelia (as opposed to the lens flares in ‘Zeus over Antarctica). The term Coronal Arc is a misnomer, no such thing. (See the link Dave Pearson provided above).
    The arc above and below the Sundog is actually part of the Sundog (and may not necessarily be a 22deg halo). Sundogs are somtimes seen to overlap with 22deg halos or they can be further away from the sun depending on the angle of the sun relative to the horizon. As seen here http://www.atoptics.co.uk/halo/circim2.htm and in my photo here
    This should not be confused with the ’Parhelic Circle’ which appears as a near horizontal arc intersecting the Sundog but which when complete encircles the horizon 360deg.
    Peter Davidson’s first comment above was very wrong. Juilee – Your BM’d accusation of running a ‘boys own club’ is rubbish and offensive. We are trying to be helpful to you and others in understanding Atmospheric Optics but you don’t seem to appreciate this or seem to misinterpret it.
    You cannot fly through a Halo. It always ‘appears’ to stay the same distance away from the observer, as do rainbows. Looking for mystical interpretations or meanings to the laws of physics is simply being inventive in the imaginary sense.

  • Ern Mainka
    Ern Mainkaover 6 years ago

    Thank you for digging out and scanning up this image Juilee. I’m glad you actually saw and photographed this Parhelion (not to be confused with the other reflections and lens flares) and that you could prove it. You said in your journal that you had trouble getting the film out of the camera. That’s of course most likely how you got the kinks in the film and some of the resulting defects in your IR images. Thanks again for making things more clear.

  • Hey thanks for getting involved with this Ern…. I know I can be abrasive sometimes but that doesn’t mean I’m not listening intently to what you have to say….. I’m still a bit confused by an aspect of the above image…. now Dave Pearson…..scholar and gentleman…. tells me that the tiny white circle in not the moon and I accept his reasoning and his science….. but it seems to be higher and further back than the sundog…. could that be Mars? which was visible in the sky that night… Dave confirmed this as well…. what do you think…. Someone one the plane…. one of the hosties I think…. told us to look out for Mars…. but its a long time ago and the details are hazy….

    – Juilee Pryor

  • Anthony Mancuso
    Anthony Mancusoover 6 years ago

    lovely, very mystical

  • thanks Anthony….. glad you like it..:)

    – Juilee Pryor

  • Dave Pearson
    Dave Pearsonover 6 years ago

    Just to be clear: I didn’t confirm that Mars was visible in the sky, I simply confirmed that Mars would have been above the horizon at the time but wouldn’t be visible under normal conditions (although, depending on altitude, I suppose it might be possible – it was about mag 1 at the time which isn’t terribly bright). Moreover, in a photograph covering that area of sky it would be a tiny dot. Also, at that time, it was on the other side of the Sun anyway.

    Now I think I see what you’re pointing at too. The mark just about 9 o’clock in relation to the sundog? That seems like nothing more than an internal reflection within the lens (or perhaps a refracted version of the light from the sundog given you were shooting through a (double-glazed?) window).

desktop tablet-landscape content-width tablet-portrait workstream-4-across phone-landscape phone-portrait