JenniferB

Profound thinking Jen…..

Lee has a way of making a person think and in my case become more than a tad irate at times, but I do so love him.

I am going to take your thoughts and put them to good personal use.

So I thank you so very kindly. xxx

which brings us back to the old addage (or new in this case)...you have to LIVE for yourself before you can live for someone else…....... butta bump bum

my brother “Died” and sais it was just so peaceful, dark and quiet
and he didn’t want to come back, mad boy

as for Dying for someone, I think that comes from the willingness to lay down your own life so that the person you love can continue to live

but I have to agree that “I would live for you” is much more appropriate

jeeez and here was me hoping for some CF’ing

Love ‘N’ Laughter Kriss ♥

What an amazing way to see it Jen, and now that you say it, it makes SO much sense….......
I guess those words to some is just like the most profound way of trying to express their highest felt emotions….........but you’re right, and love your insight here…..
I’ve been revived once, but going out was easy….......(not my choice btw)
and I was SO fucking glad to come back….....
:)) x

A good twist on a standard thought. However, just how does one live for another without enabling them? Love is a mighty complicated thing…

Whats Simple about it????????????? ” – ))

Whether you would die for someone or live for them depends on the circumstances, I think – there is one person for whom I would willingly give my life because the world needs so many more people like this one, they enrich the lives of just about everyone who has the great good fortune to meet them; this person is very special. As for myself, I don’t care whether I live or die, life is very cruel to me , has been for quite a few years now and will be for many more to come, quite possibly the rest of my life.

From the various things I’ve read through the years, each person’s experience of either death-and-revival and near-death is different – I’m glad you were successfully revived but, your statement begs the question: are you disappointed that there was nothibng to it?

some seeds spring forth, quicky with a drop of water,some seeds spring forth with a drop of blood from reddened tears—of times insults,-either way, seeds planted yesterday or long ago in the end, demand germinations labor-your time has come-grow mature concludtions, harvests, cry with joy,you lived long enough to see and feel pains children

Yay for two thoughts…i read them and smile, as I think the words are true for most.
What I like is the words themselves, though few they are well written thoughts and have brought so many to comment…here’s hoping you plant these in the mind and they grow.
: { )}
XOX

I think what you said makes a lot of sense if its said when the lover is still alive or AFTER the lover dies… so you are living for the person or live on after the lover dies because that is what they would want you to. However, If you put this phrase Opposite to “i would die for you” the meaning isn’t the same…if you are willing to DIE or make the ultimate sacrifice so that the one you love can live on I think that would be far more noble then if you said “i would live for you” because that would mean in the same situation you would let the person you love die while you live. I know that this isnt what you meant by saying your philosophical thought but thats my two cents on it based on context. muchhh love jen :)

and its really hard, after someone you love dies, to live… but its all we have… not to dwell in the yesterday of golden memory, but the tomorrow of reality… and still – we love… xoxox

This other person doesn’t love me, we only enjoy a special non-romantic friendship. I won’t succumb to life’s cruelty as I’m a very stubborn old bitch who has an incsatiable curiosity to see what’s around the next corner, over the next hil – I don’t believe in the theory that we each have a prupose for our existence, I’m simply here because my parents got married and I am one of the results of their marriage. I’m also not one of those people who need a reason for their existence, I’m here for the duration, for as long as my life lasts. I don’t fear death, only the manner of it. I enjoyed your thoughts, they were very interesting – I hope they give you further insight into (your) life and that you enjoy the results.

I like the concept of living for someone as when you are searching you seem to put all on hold…I can see the concept of sacrifice though, not to die in a literal sense but to give your all, every piece of whats inside. that is a hard thing to do. As for CF….blush we all need a little or a lot of that at times!!!

If you live for someone else you may as well be dead… that’s my cheery view on things anyway :D

I can see your point, Jennifer. What you say has a special poignancy to me. I still understand and find value in the idea of being willing to die for one’s love. But to live for one’s love means, to me, being alive, being the best you can be by taking care of yourself so you are able to be fully there for your loved one. I don’t know if I’m being clear - still on my first cup of coffee - but this definitely gives food for thought.

Maybe I should say nothing and keep people guessing…or maybe I should say how I really feel and think and piss people off…I have learned from past relationships, that it’s not worth sweating over anymore…I love being single and living alone and just worrying about myself and no one else!!! In fact, I put animals above people!!! I don’t care about my community or the people in it. I sit home everyday enjoying ME time and collecting my monthly check and do whatever I feel like doing, even if it is sitting in my apartment all day long!!! I have reasons why I am the way I am now and they are good enough for me!!! I have always been a different type of person since I was little!!! I do have people in my life, but sometimes they can’t understand how I can be the way I am and I tell them it is very simple!!! My emotions show if an animal is hurt and that it is!!! Oh well, such is life!!! :-)

Love is lust and pheromones hormones and whores.
I could die for a fried mars bar on vegemite and toast.
Maybe death for some people is solitude and nothing.

Isn’t the pussy the gateway to the womans heart and soul?

You depend on it. Pussies and cocks tits and clits its the way you use these beautiful endowments that make the difference.

Not sure what hoistic means. There are fish with lovely little wiggley bits that entice other fish to come in closer and look, and get eaten. Is that holistic?

The fish and its enticement is a way of living. It depends on its attributes to survive and lead a happy fulfilled life.
Life and sex and things that go bumpydibump. Spiritual Emotional connecting to the force of the eternal rollercoaster that young ladies of desire have for soul and emotion and something from above to connect pussy to cock.

I am in the Jungian camp myself, around the fire and the muses and dreams.

Yes that Jung. Oh for godness sake womnan there are hundreds of fucking religions and cults and things you can jive to, there is only one you.

Goodnight sweetheart, you have made my being worthwhile.

At the time I met this person, I was going through a very bad period and, without knowing, that person helped me far more than I thought another could. That meeting proved to be one of the best things ever to happen in my life – we have built a solid, long-lasting friendship based on respect for each other as individuals, talents and skills, and a number of shared interests, and a meeting of minds, plus a similar, irreverant take on life in general. I’ve seen the effect this person’s compassion and love of life has had on others, and they way they make each person who comes into contact with them feel very special, even if it’s only for a moment. This person has made a significant difference to my life but I I haven’t made a difference to their’s, and I know this with great certainty. Like you, I like to see other people’s perspectives on life and I also like to see how they deal with the consequences of those curve balls which life launches from time to time. A good deal of my growth has come from having to deal with my problems myself, it has taught me that sometimes, I have to fall flat on my face and crawl to avoid life’s galeforce winds. When they’ve passed, I can pick myself up and continue down the path.
Co-dependencey? I’m too proud to accept that for long and there is only one person who is “dependent” on me. I admit that this drives me up the wall from time to time but, it’s there and I won’t deprive that person as it would come close to destroying them.
Life goes on with or without us so, we might as well participate, maybe we can stimulate someone or comfort them or give them a smile (like Joak does for me). Lifes mysteries will never be discovered but, it can be fun trying.

Throughout my life, many people have said they wouldn’t wish this or that (usually an event or their life as a whole) on anyone else and for a long time, I also held that thought; however, age has changed this and I now wish that I could give certain people a week in my (earlier) years to give them just a glimpse of what had made me who I am today. Knowing just a little of my circumstances, they say they couldn;’t possibly live the way i have to but, when it’s a matter of life or death, I think they would change their minds. But, you are quite correct, we evolve as we move through life, we are all Works In Progress, from the day we are born ‘til the day we die. How we react to the things which happen in our lives often depends on many things not the least of which is the nature versus Nurture debate; however, I truly believe that our genes play a large part in what sort of person we turn out to be. My compassion for others is . . . well, I guess you could say there are a number of “criteria” someone must meet before I will offer help and this is because past experience has taught me some hard lessons.
I apreciat eyou sharing your thoughts with me, among many, Jennifer, they are close to some of my own.

To most people who offered me just this brief outline, i would sympathise and indulge their feelings of bitterness and anger for a while but, unless I sensed a willigness in them to move out of that, I would probably not give that for long if they kept on and on and on . . .. You have obviously left that that attitude behind you, as you say with the help of many here on RB so, I will simply say you’ve done very well and what I am seeing now is fascinating! While my life has been rather different in substance to yours, I do know where you’re coming from . I know there are trustworthy people around but, again, past experience has made me very cautious who I “give” myself to. I’m quite comfortable with my own company but, if I feel the need for other company, there are a few with whom I will spend time. I’m glad you found the courage to look within and make the changes which have led you to a happier way to live. Shit happens – as some younger people say, “Get over it already and get on with it!”, or as the Brits say, “Stiff upper lip and a poker up your arse!”, that’s an attitude I’ve had for many years now. It’s been a interesting. I hope you continue to enjou life’s journey including all it’s bumps and wrong turns.

LMAO, if I learnt anything from my parents, it was the hyprocisy of not showing the same “face” to a constant observier. I think I would be a basket case if i tried to emulate them. Age is a funny thing – it has, perhaps, made me quieter but more determined! It has also given me the ability to see consequences and the courage to do “it” anyway – it’s a wonderful feeling of freedon and it can be quite heady! F*ck it, I’ve paid my dues, I’ll take what little freedom I can and ejoy it. Maybe I’m enjoying the teens I never really had . . .

Living is so much harder than dieing I’ve tried killing myself for about 8 years and living this last past 1 1/2 is so hard but so worth it living for myself and especially for Matt n Kara you’re so smart

very good point “i will live for you” because let’s face it, we are useless when we are dead! i find it frustrating when people are asleep when i am awake. afternoon nappers grate on me!!! if someone died for me i’d be most distraught and quite pissed off with them actually. a dead corpse is useless to me :P

can’t fuck a corpse can you! lol. saying that, my last shag was a bit like fucking a corpse.. shit.

oh she was shit, like a sack of potatoes. she’s a journalist, very self indulgent. thinks she’s a celebrity…but, whether she is or not? the bottom line is she was shit in bed so..rules everything out in my book! poor girl ;)

profound thoughts

very true, personality is the key too. she’s not for me though…here she is :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s8ChM8m5B4&feature=channel_page

i’m sure the words will flow, especially from one who is a talented as yourself

innit, i could do a better job than her! she told me she interviewed the prodigy and the pixies…i was like “um..let’s see the vid then” she told me she will have to find it lol! if i interviewed either of them i’d be sure to put those interviews up on my website before scroobius pip – whoever the fuck he is!

i’ll write to MTV now…

ha! pulling my tits is a new one! never heard that one before hehe! yeah i’ll write to them, worth a try – nothing to lose

i need to get a band together first! thanks for the thought though ;)

are you asleep? rubbish.

Thank you sweetie

Too complicated!

“I would die for you” – seems more appropriate.. . as it is a bitter sweet, and.. . well

argh.

u awake? fucking net is boring today…not working out for me