Elisabeta Hermann

Elisabeta Hermann

Westminster, CO, United States

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The latest BAD NEWS!...and I am more and more upset and disappointed…:(

My dear RB friends,

I think that the many of you are familiar with my previous Journal, the one I posted on the 21st of January, 2012, Keep an eye on your works! – This can happen to you too…….
It is my previous Journal; if you did not read it so far, please click on the link above.

Anyway…As much I know at this time, is that the issue mentioned in that Journal is resolved. It seems that “radetesi.com” took down my images.
I have no idea if my works are still hidden somewhere if I would log in. Now when I click on the links I gave in my previous Journal, it comes up the page of “Join” or “Log In.”

HERE IS THE LATEST BAD NEWS:

This morning we discovered another place where a writer is using one of my paintings for his poem.

It is just crazy!!!

Here is the link: http://www.booksie.com/library/toc.html/toc/462562

This poet is mentioning my name as the creator of the painting. He does not give a link to me or my works anywhere.
But the fact still remains, he is using it without my permission (may be even as a book cover, or even worse… is selling the book)…I don’t know.

The poem was ePublished today, January 29, 2012.

All we found out so far about him is that he is in USA.

We are working hard to find a contact info…no success for the time being…:(

I am very, very upset and disappointed…:(

All this seems to be an ongoing and never ending hopeless battle…:(

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Here is a ""Screenshot" of one of his pages where my work is attached to his poem:

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Thank you for stopping by,

Have a gorgeous weekend,

Hugs to ALL of you,
Elisabeta Hermann

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Sunday – January 29, 2012

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Ps. – added on Monday – the 30th of Januray:

After receiving the Takedown Notification the writer replaced the images.
All is good now…:)
Thank you all for your support and feedbacks.

Ha a fabulous and creative week,
Elisabeta

Comments

  • Sue Nichol
    Sue Nicholover 2 years ago

    What a sad state if affairs, hope you are able to sort it.

  • Thanks Sue. Yes…I hope so too…:)
    What bothers and worries me is that this looks like will never end…:(
    One site is taking down illegally used works today…and 3 new once we discover tomorrow doing the same thing…:(((

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • Cindy Schnackel
    Cindy Schnackelover 2 years ago

    Yes it’s maddening. I wish we could just press a button and it’d go away, but it takes a lot of our time to find thefts, then find out who the site’s provider/host is, then compose the takedown notice, etc. The very first time it happened to me it wrecked my whole weekend. It’s happened enough now that the more minor offenses like these no longer ruin my day, but these scraper sites are so numerous it has wasted a lot of our time, and that is starting to bug me again. There are a lot of journals about these thefts now, and most of them contain useful information. Networking really helps. Even with the various ways to do reverse image searches, none of the scraper sites came up on them, so I’d only have found out thru networking here, no where else. Hang in there.

  • Thanks Cindy.
    I am just happy that I discovered on the 21 the “radetesi.com”’ illegal use of our works and was able to give a “heads up” to many of my fellow RB members here.
    Yes, it is very, very disheartening that we have to waist so much time on “policing” our works, when we could use it for creating. Not to mention all the stress these type of situations create…:(
    My Sunday is upside-down already…:(

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • Cindy Schnackel
    Cindy Schnackelover 2 years ago

    It was a conscious decision I had to talk myself into, Betty, to NOT get too upset about relatively minor infringements. While I will send DMCA takedown notices to sites like ratedesi, bloggers who steal, etc, I am saving my real wrath for anyone I find actually claiming ownership of, or selling my work, or some other more serious offense.

    On one end of this scale is “sharing” like Face Book share buttons, etc, which most people have decided there is no point objecting to. It’d be impossible to police that, and most feel there is too much benefit to it to want to police it. On the other end of the scale are those who steal and resell our work. In between are the bloggers and scrapers. It’s all a matter of degree. The sheer number of these that happened this week wasted quite a bit of time though, and that sure is irritating.

  • Yes you are 100% right about everything you are saying above!
    I will try to do the same here, talk myself in not to react to this things…:)…will be very hard I am telling you, I am a very, very sensitive person (much more than I should be, unfortunately).
    I am just thinking about the fact that if these images of our works, that we find on the internet here and there (used illegally), are the once that can be viewed, how many of our works are used for selling them and we have no idea; we never find out about it.
    I really don’t know what to say anymore…:(
    I hear every day how great is to have your work on the Internet…what a great exposure it is!…(even if I could not brag so far about any real benefit I experienced so far, out of one sale of an original painting of mine from FAA, and one on RB (to a fellow artist)…and some sales of prints, cards…etc; nothing significant.
    A few years ago I met a painter lady in VA (a very good and successful one btw), who promised that she never-ever will have her works on the Internet in any way, for the reasons we all know now. I remember more and more her words now. Maybe she IS right!
    Thank you again very, very much for your support and your valuable feedbacks Cindy.

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • Renate  Dartois
    Renate Dartoisover 2 years ago

    Dear Elisabeta…..about a year ago as I googled my name I came across a poetry site that mentioned my name I clicked on the the site and found my Art work being used by some of the poets. It said curtesy of redbubble.net I clicked on to it and there is such a site where one can download art. Anyways I contacted the lady and she said she would be happy to take it down however she writes such beautiful poems and it is okay with me to use it. she also told me that other poets on the site were using my images which was true. It does not bother me having my work used this way however I did say to mention my name and a link to RB.com

  • Thank you, dear Renate for your feedback.
    Yes, at the minimum he could give a link to me, but, in my opinion the first thing (not only from the legal stand point, but the good sense requires it too) should ask for my permission.
    What is even more upsetting for me is that I can not find any way to contact this poet and let him know how I feel about all this.

    You know…at this point it becomes a matter of principal too.
    This case is not unique (unfortunately), and what would happen if everybody uses works of everybody else around on the Internet, for promoting their own works (writings, poems…etc), services or just decorating their own pages?
    The laws and rules are made to be respected, if not we all find ourselves in the middle of a huge “internet chaos”.
    Anyway, as I see this is already happening more and more in our days…:(

    Have a wonderful Sunday,
    Hugs,
    Elisabeta

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • carcer
    carcerover 2 years ago

    Hi, Elisabeta!

    This is such a troubling situation. (((hugs)))
    I’ve found pages of my images on some of these sites. Some of the images were ones on RedBubble but some were from my blogs and other sites. Those weren’t for sale and weren’t linkable. I felt (and still feel) violated…vulnerable… FURIOUS…because I have no control over what those images are attached to. It would be bad enough if someone used an image without asking, to accompany a lovely poem or music. But what if they end up linked to pornography? Some horrible violence? What if they’re incorporated into someone’s video work? That’s the part that’s making most angry, beyond the lack of control that we know we have once we post something on the Internet.

    So I’ve decide not to post anything else anywhere until I can get comfortable with the idea that anyone can use anything any way he or she wants to…that we can’t protect our images and our reputations. I don’t want to have my name linked with anything bad and yet it could be, very easily. It MAY be right now and I don’t know it yet.

    I doubt I’ll ever be comfortable with that. So for now I’m just creating and not sharing. Sad.
    :(

    Thank you for this “Booksie” info!

  • Good to see you dear Robin; thank you so much for stopping by…:)
    Yes, I feel the same way, and it is so terrible that whatever I do, I cannot stop all this.
    I do not know if you read my previous Journal, but the site I was bringing in my fellow RB members’ attention, was a Dating Site. This is one of the best examples of what you are talking about above. Yes, what will happen if I see my works on a porno site?…you are right.
    It is such a hard decision to take about showing or not my works from now on anywhere on the Internet.
    A part of me wants to not show them anymore…but another part of me would like to share them with the world. I don’t know what to say…I don’t think that it is a real good answer for me out there.
    All I can say is that it is scaring what is happening…:(
    Sending you my best wishes,
    Warm hugs to you,
    Elisabeta

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • BCallahan
    BCallahanover 2 years ago

    This really makes me angry, and i want to do what i can to help… just spent a few minutes looking up this guy….
    here is what i found out:
    His name is Andrew Delapruch
    this work is on several sites.
    http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-sensitive-sh...

    http://www.delapruch.deviantart.come/art/the-se...

    http://www.delapruch.writersresidence.com/sampl...

    now, i’m off to look and see what else i can find.

    hugs, barb

  • Thank you so much, my dear friend…:)
    You really helped me.

    1. In the first link, the “poemhunter”, he does not have my work attached to his poem (or I did not see it), but has a button called “message to the poet”.
      I will contact him that way.
    1. The second link you gave me, the “deviantart” website is not working.
    1. The 3rd link is really good; I even took a “screenshot” of the page.

    Here is the direct link to the page where on this “writersresidence.com”; he is using my painting again, but here without even mentioning my name.

    Link:

    http://delapruch.writersresidence.com/samples/t...

    Screenshot:

    In this case I will have to report him to the website, no contact info to him again!

    OMG!!!…I wonder on how many places I will have to chase this guy?!!!

    Thank you soooooooooo much, my dear Barbara.

    Love,
    Betty

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • Ha!…I just found another website where this guy used my painting (this time mentioning my name), attached to his poem; published also this morning.
    Here if you click on the thumbnail of my work will enlarge nicely…:)

    Link:
    http://www.writerscafe.org/writing/delapruch/89...

    Screenshot:

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    I will go crazy(er)!!!… LOL

    He was contacted with a Takedown notification…we will see what will happen.

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • BCallahan
    BCallahanover 2 years ago
  • Thank you dear Barb; I sent him a message and I see that he replaced the images…:)
    Have a wonderful week,
    Hugs,
    Betty

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • eoconnor
    eoconnorover 2 years ago

    BETTY THIS IS A TERRIBLE SITUATION AND I HOPE YOU CAN RESOLVE IT BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THOSE WHO TRY TO PROFIT ON THE BACKS OF OTHERS. TAKE IT ONE STEP AT A TIME AND KEEP CREATING HUGGS lIZ

  • Thank you my dear Liz, for all your support.
    Have an excellent week,
    Hugs,
    Betty

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • Dear Cyndi,
    I apologize for the delay in my reply, but I could not do it earlier.
    My case looks like is resolved, the writer replaced my image (no reply to me, o apologies, nothing – but I am happy it worked out this way).
    Here is the software I use for adding Watermark:
    http://www.watermark-image.com/buy.aspx
    It is very easy to use, fast and it is free for personal use.
    I do not know what to say about applying watermark to images we offer for print.
    If we add it in the middle, across the image, how can we still offer it for print?
    If we add it somewhere where is not disturbing, somebody can just crop the image and still use it.
    and…
    As much I know, there are people out there who know how to remove a watermark completely.
    I do not know anymore what to say.
    I just found out that my images are back on “radetesi.com”, but now at a different link, and with a disclaimer added to the page.
    http://www.ratedesi.com/i/pics/Float-Trip-Cold-...;
    Of course we asked again for the removal of my work from their site.
    Have a wonderful day,
    Hugs,
    Betty

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • Cindy Schnackel
    Cindy Schnackelover 2 years ago

    Betty, I had yet another opportunity to practice controlling my anger today, when it was discovered by another RB member that two bloggers were using my work. Read about it my journal here

    But, proud to say, after sending the takedowns, I’m going to put it aside for now and do some painting. I’m getting better at dealing with it emotionally but know that the first time I find someone selling or claiming my work as theirs I will go ballistic. So far the bloggers, etc, are irritating but mostly harmless. So far!

    One thing I’m working on is to get all my online offerings reduced in number. I don’t have many images up on Blue Canvas. I took all my non-sketchbook examples off The Sketchbook Project. Closed my Art Wanted account. Culled many images on Red Bubble. I am slowly adding “© Cindy Schnackel” somewhere even on images intended for Prints, and always prominently on images I post on my google blog or on Facebook. Any images that are displayed online are small and low resolution. (Red Bubble’s displays are controlled by RB and are not big high resolution images.) On blogging I only use 72 dpi and also small in inches too. Still, even these tiny images are still great for bloggers to steal! So to save MY time I’m slowly making my images less attractive to anyone who’d want to resell them or claim them as their work, and just making my portfolios smaller in general. It all takes a LOT of time. And it doesn’t help that half my images are on my old computer that is dead, and I’m sharing a computer w/my husband now!

    But the goal is to present less to steal, and have less to keep track of. I don’t want to just get off the internet, as it has too many benefits and I enjoy it. But making the task of copyright policing manageable is really important if I’m to have any time left to actually paint!

  • Dear Cyndi,
    I apologize for the delay in my reply, but I could not do it earlier.
    My case looks like is resolved, the writer replaced my image (no reply to me, o apologies, nothing – but I am happy it worked out this way).
    Here is the software I use for adding Watermark:
    http://www.watermark-image.com/buy.aspx
    It is very easy to use, fast and it is free for personal use.
    I do not know what to say about applying watermark to images we offer for print.
    If we add it in the middle, across the image, how can we still offer it for print?
    If we add it somewhere where is not disturbing, somebody can just crop the image and still use it.
    and…
    As much I know, there are people out there who know how to remove a watermark completely.
    I do not know anymore what to say.
    I just found out that my images are back on “radetesi.com”, but now at a different link, and with a disclaimer added to the page.
    http://www.ratedesi.com/i/pics/Float-Trip-Cold-...;
    Of course we asked again for the removal of my work from their site.
    Have a wonderful day,
    Hugs,
    Betty

    – Elisabeta Hermann

  • © Linda Callaghan
    © Linda Callaghanover 2 years ago

    how upsetting for you Betty.. and all of us….I am pleased to hear that you managed to get your work removed from this thieving site. The weekend just gone was filled to the brim with me reading journals on bubble on how to write DMCA letters as my work was also on ratedesi along with a lot of other artists on here…also on pixceleb. They were gone but last night I see there are some back on pixceleb!! what a shocking waste of time and so annoying that again I have to do a letter. I will take on Cindy’s attitude and try not to let it get to me…shallow, disrespectful, theives cannot win..it would be a shame if you stopped sharing your beautiful work with those that enjoy to view it. The internet is a great way to share your art but I know we are all so vunerable now…I see when I search my name on bing…there is now a header saying linda callaghan, bullaburra, artworks etc. get address, email, tel nos. and more ? I was upset about this ..it is a uk co. and it is a public domain site but when I click on it…I do not see my personal info. but sites I am on. ..more worry now …anyway off to check all the lovely bubbly art on here..you have a wonderful day all!

  • Thank you so much for stopping by, dear Linda.
    Yes, in this case worked out well, but this will never stop.
    Please read my reply to Cindy, above. “Radetesi” uses again my images. This is just crazy!
    Honestly, I do not think that is any efficient way to protect our work.
    I really love to share my works with the world, but at this point I am more and more discouraged.
    I did not check out “pixeleb” yet….honestly, I wonder If I want to do it anymore…LOL
    But yes, I will do that and look up for my name on “bing” too…:) Let’s see what other surprises I will have!…LOL
    Have a wonderful day,
    Hugs,
    Betty

    – Elisabeta Hermann