BackStage at RB


Coming Soon...

Ahoy there – Some of you might remember a few mock-ups that were posted a while back of MyBubble and the Groups updates which included a new site-wide navigation on them. Well, we’re going to be releasing this navigation this week, so we thought we’d give you a bit of a preview so you don’t fall off your chairs when it happens, explain a few of the changes and ask for a bit of feedback. While this might feel like it, it’s not a “new RedBubble” or a “complete makeover” – we’re just tweaking things to help us help you a bit better.

So here it is:

There’s probably 3 main reasons we’re changing the nav. The first is for consistency among all of our nav – we realised that we’ve had you dancing all over the page to get to different things, so we’re connecting as much of the nav as we can into one spot that stays put! The next obvious change is we’ve moved away from image-based menus which means the nav loads faster and the whole nav can scale with the browser text-size setting, which helps out our accessibility friends. Lastly, we needed to change the way the nav worked behind the scenes so that moving forward, we could implement some of the great ideas we’ve got for updating the site, but faster. All this means that we’re spending less time working around older styles and more time making stuff for you guys! (which really is a good thing right?) Gone are the gradient buttons and the odd little drop-shadow guy that was hanging off the left of the menu, but along for the ride has come a fancy new giant “_you really will notice it_” BubbleMail indicator.

Unfortunately, IE users won’t be seeing things quite as funky as everyone else – but we’ll push out some IE fixes as soon as we can to get it a little closer. Needless to say, you can still use everything in IE, just with a few less curves and you could always grab Firefox , Safari or Chrome and then you’ll get the full-curvy-goodness straight away.

Because of the site nav changes, we’ve had to go through every page of the site and tweak everything to match and fit as some of the pages were relying on the old navigational styles for odd things. We’re getting rid of the gradient-grey background that has been site-wide, and replacing it with a full-white background that’s going to make your images pop a lot more, as well as freshening the place up a bit.

The question we have for you is, what do you like, a full-white page, or something with a white background, but framed in a grey. Don’t get mixed up, we’re not talking about a fluid, expanding page here, just whether you’re more interested in a plain white background, or something like a rectangle of white within a light grey. This isn’t a vote or anything as fancy as that, we’re just after a gauge of what you guys are expecting.

As a bonus, while fixing the forums you’ve scored a bit of extra width for reading and writing:

There’s a few other little things that have changed like the size of text boxes on the Add Writing + Journal screens, the groups + forum search boxes are a little more obvious, we’re limiting the width of images in journals, comments and descriptions, the default site font is standard across all platforms now (sorry Lucida Grande lovers) and a whole bunch more.

Like I said, we’re doing this so that other updates are easier on us and faster to you, and if you find a page that we’ve missed that’s gone crazy with its layout, just let us know and we’ll sort it out – but hopefully overall you’ll like what’s getting released.

Cheers guys – Russ

ps. For those of you keeping score, worry not, we’re still busy fixing up the Group News parts of MyBubble too. We really wanted it to release this week, and while we are putting a Group News feed in your activity feeds, we’ve got a few final tweaks before we get the Group stuff in MyBubble 100% right, so here’s a little preview of where we’re going with it just to keep you up to date:

  • MuscularTeeth

    MuscularTeethVoted Most Helpful Bubbler

    sounds like great news

  • Danny

    Danny

    sexy

  • Tama Blough

    Tama Blough

    Looks good – I can go either way on the page – whichever loads faster.

  • Lance Jackson

    Lance Jackson

    Looks very shiny!

  • Elana Bailey

    Elana Bailey

    Looks groovy babe.

  • samedog

    samedog

    Like it all, and I’m for a white background framed in grey.

  • square

    square

    sweet. can never have too much ‘pop’.

  • BackStage at RB replied

    So long as there’s a healthy dose of Snap & Crackle to go along with it ;)

  • Juilee  Pryor

    Juilee Pryor

    mmm mm that looks wonderful … all go at RB HQ…. nice

  • Colleen Milburn

    Colleen Milburn

    Cool – looking good, guys!
    And as for your query re our opinion, I’d like a plain white background, please, i.e. no gray bits at the side – all the better for images to have less distractions around it!

  • Colleen Milburn

    Colleen Milburn

    P.S. My absolutely ‘druther’ would be a black background with white font!!! (and a choice of colours for background and fonts)

  • Alison Johnston

    Alison Johnston

    One thing missing from the new format is a direct link to the Forums, which I would really like to see included. The white background looks Ok to me.

  • Colleen Milburn

    Colleen Milburn

    Great idea, Alison!

  • Alison Johnston

    Alison Johnston

    P.S Russ, this is the WWW and lots of browsers exist. IE would probably be one of the most popular along side Firefox and Safari.

  • BackStage at RB replied

    If there’s anyone who knows what browsers exist, you’re talking to him (that’s me Russ replying as backstage) – It’s not like we’re leaving poor IE out of the game, it’s just that for very little effort extra we can make things look remarkable in FF & Safari, whereas to make thing just WORK in IE take alot of effort, so when it comes down to the time, I’d rather design everything to standards based browsers looking fantastic and then bring IE to an acceptable level rather than waste everyone’s time backwards-hacking everything for IE.

  • alexkess

    alexkess

    Yippee love the new plain menu bar. Also I think plain White background is fine. It’ll make the photos pop out more. Group news look great that is exactly what we need to communicate with the members effectively.

  • WendyJC

    WendyJC

    sounds like some more wonderful updates!
    plain white or partial, all looks good :)

  • John Robb

    John Robb

    Yep looking good. My thought is pain white would work a touch better. Hope you are keeping things to 1024 in width.

  • BackStage at RB replied

    Yesiree – 1024 people are still safe, we haven’t forgotten you yet!

  • Dorothy Venter

    Dorothy Venter

    It sounds great. A plain white background will go a long way.

  • KiwiAna

    KiwiAna

    Looks Good! Maybe white would look cleaner.

  • valzart

    valzart

    Woot lol! wonderful work you guyz ;}x happy hippy hugglez

  • adgray

    adgray

    OOOh Peeps you are wonderful!!!
    Now you have told us what we’re getting you have actually excited us to get it!
    Re the page … UM White is fine to back Visuals but our eyes are going to end up squinting whilst trying to read [not good for readers of writers … get my drift? lol] But I like the grey behind the white page – to define it.
    But then I’m a writer I know nothing of photographic popping! lol

    Thank you for the pre-briefing!
    Chookas! X♥X

  • BackStage at RB replied

    “But I like the grey behind the white page” <—Are you referring specifically to the Written works pages?

  • Cathie Tranent

    Cathie Tranentcommunity host

    Shiny! Don’t mind the grey on the edges … but probably better viewing photographs without it!

  • Marion  Cullen

    Marion Cullen

    Very slick, can’t wait to see it in action .
    I too would prefer the all white alternative.

  • Jane Keats

    Jane Keats

    Although the grey looks good in that small pic, I reckon I’ll agree with all white, probably less distracting and easier on the eye.

  • Stephen Colquitt

    Stephen Colquitt

    White on white for me – looking forward to playing with the new toys

  • Karin  Taylor

    Karin Taylorcommunity helper

    Hmmmm nice!
    I love all white because of it’s clean look… But ….. The little bit of grey is definately kinder on the eye, and draws you into the image. The eye bounces away from the image due to the stark white I think…it tends to repel the eye, wheras that little bit of grey welcomes the eye in. It’s only a small and probably insignificant observation though

  • barnsis

    barnsis

    Looks good to me – white on white I would say.

  • prbimages

    prbimages

    Looks excellent! You guys are doing a wonderful job.
    White background for me, please.

  • DeviousLili

    DeviousLili

    Sexy is right! White inside a bit of gray has my vote. White on white seems so … purist.

    Thanks, all of you! :D

  • Pip Gerard

    Pip Gerard

    DEFINITELY ALL WHITE!!
    Exciting changes… I’m an IE user though so won’t see the sexiness of it :D

  • joan warburton

    joan warburton

    I like the framing grey behind the white and thanks for all of your hard work.

  • joan warburton

    joan warburton

    ........... forgot to add, the grey frame is easier on the eyes.

  • Chris Jackson

    Chris Jackson

    I love the new changes. keeping it simple is looking great. Less if definantly more!
    I would go with all white for the background. The grey borders make me feel a bit hemed in.

    Keep up the good work you guys :@)

  • Sue Ireland

    Sue Ireland

    Looks Great I like plain white easyer on the eyes of us older folk

  • Anne Staub

    Anne Staub

    Looks like so far, you’ve got the same amount of grey or white preferences. I’ll say grey with enough white :).

    All looking very good!! :)

  • D R Moore

    D R Moorecommunity helper

    I do like the new look much better than the old.
    Fingers crossed that this link my groups will be organized Alphabetically.I like the group news but I would like an rss/atom feed for that. Sorry what I realty mean is I like the all white background.
    Great work and I’m looking forward to the new sexy redbubble.

  • BackStage at RB replied

    ”...organized Alphabetically” – This may have slipped in with the tweaking ;)

    And you might like to get the RSS/Atom feed idea into the feedback.redbubble.com list…

  • genevievem

    genevievem

    I like white.

  • Mike Emmett

    Mike Emmett

    Veeeery sexiful, Russell san.

  • Al Neaimi

    Al Neaimi

    White on white i think it will look nicer , great news, i like the new look .

  • butchart

    butchart

    it looks like group “avatars” will become visible again.. which is a wonderful thing….. along with a tidbit about each group.. i think it will help boost group participation and give group hosts the ability to incorporate avatars as rewards in challanges and singleing out exemplary work…...... all of this again proves that you “guys” behind the scenes work very hard to make RB a wonderful site and have the best interests of the entire community in mind….......... props and thank you to all of you…......b
    (white on white)...................

  • Paul McClintock

    Paul McClintockZuul, the Gatekeeper

    This is looking super sexy. To be honest, I’ve felt that the redbubble ui had been lagging behind the rest of the internet in terms of sexiness… this should fix it good.

  • Paul McClintock

    Paul McClintockZuul, the Gatekeeper

    ps… I’d like to see a plain white background, rather than having grey sides. Just for a change. Grey is yuck.

  • Sarah Grace

    Sarah Grace

    I’m with most everyone else. White on white looks so much better than having a gray stripe on the page. Nice job guys!

  • Janis Zroback

    Janis Zroback

    Please just pure white…they grey makes it busy and I think it looks better clean…in so many of the other art listing sites you can’t find the art with all the stuff on the page…

  • Janis Zroback

    Janis Zroback

    Keep up the great work…

  • blamo

    blamo

    Looks much more neat and tidy Crack open the champagne

  • Jonathan Dower

    Jonathan Dower

    nice. pure white is the best way, though here’s a concept… widescreen version of the site? :D nah i know it would take loads of formatting then be a significant issue for those without widescreen monitors.
    but nice navigation bar, looks great, and nice and simple.

  • MoxieNox

    MoxieNox

    Awesomeness! Keep up the great work, guys! And I’d rather be looking at white than grey.. Pink isn’t bad either…. Or purple? lol.. Just kidding!

  • adgray

    adgray

    “But I like the grey behind the white page” <—Are you referring specifically to the Written works pages?

    I wasnt but now you are offering …. :O)

    I’d love to bring COLOUR to the written work via the page shade …. pale shadows like you propose for the grey shadow behind the page …. could we have choice of colour? Pale of course – a nice faded brick red or luscious green or sea blue …. it may make reading our black words on white page a little more enjoyable. perhaps even back grounds for inclusion in the art category: like my Hush in the Bull Rushes poem
    eg:
    I’d also love the written pages to be wider – say another 6cms to this with ability for tabs & full spell check [synonyms, program-able etc] – Bread & Butter tools for writers! – gives poems the right LOOK [poetry being about the look of it as much as the sound of it – written art!]
    well you offered :O)

    But you guys just give us so much I love this site! ♥☼♥

  • stevengeer

    stevengeer

    All white please…

  • coppertrees

    coppertrees

    White is cool I like Black as well.

  • Isa Rodriguez

    Isa Rodriguez

    you guys are my secret love.. this is rocking…. white on white is perfect..

  • Eva and Klaus Weber-Wanjek

    Eva and Klaus ...

    The grey looks more elegant BUT I actually prefer the pure white – it looks more generous.
    Thanks for all your hard work!!!

  • felinemind

    felinemind

    I like the grey as it really focuses your attention on the white area.

  • Jo Hoden   "C'est la Vie"

    Jo Hoden "C'...

    looking good

  • Tania Rose

    Tania Rose

    great!
    Can we also have a direct link to the forums PLEASE
    As for either greay or white, 6 one way – half a dozen the other.

  • Mary Campbell

    Mary Campbell

    I like the full white page better than the framed one. So is this going to be the standard for the whole site, all pages will look the same. Looks good on the activity page, will it effect the user’s gallery page too? How will the customers know when they click on Art that it’s not your art it’s taking them to, but All art on RB? I also, see a shopping cart is replacing the send it button, what happens here?

    Too bad IE is not working as that’s the browser we have at work. I guess I’ll have to see how it all works once it’s cut over.

  • Mariaan Krog

    Mariaan Krog

    It can go either way on the page.
    Whichever loads faster.

  • Terri Chandler

    Terri Chandler

    I’ll sing your praises if I can still at the very least get on the sight once the change takes place…....I.E. user and as much as I love you guys, I’m not “loading” a new browser. ;o(
    Sorry.

  • ROUBLE RUST

    ROUBLE RUST

    A full-white page please!!!!!!!
    Good work guys – they all look really great, really.

  • RiSH :

    RiSH :

    Love the text based navigation bar.
    Also think full white pages make things look better.

    The new links under my bubble tab are perfect,
    but I think calendars (if not journals) should have been included under main horizontal tabs.

    Also there shoul be a product based navigation option (like card, poster, framed print)

    Another small thing … th new bubble mail notification giant is welcome but nt beside my bubble, can you place it at top (beside cart) ... pending cart items and unread bubblemails will give red signals, otherwise cart and bubble mail notification should be plain text linkd on simple white.

  • cinquain

    cinquain

    I really like the grey. It gives the page contrast. All white makes my eyes bleed. :(

    Sorry if I missed it in this post, but when is the new group overhaul going to take place? I’m excited to spruce up my group page. My impatience is making me itchy!

  • yobbo

    yobbo

    go with the white, it looks cleaner and there’s nothing wrong with a bit of space. Some would say its design.

  • Sharon Mau

    Sharon Mau

    Aloha Russ,

    It was the first thing I noticed when I logged on tonight, the page is cleaner, brighter, and well organised. It seems as if a different font is used, and in some cases text is larger. I love the new tabs, and the artist’s bio data field on each image. No more “play nice”, the RedBubble Etiquette wording is more professional.
    There are many wonderful new changes with the group pages as well.
    Overall I like the new look very much.
    I would love to have a black background, it would be sensational! Otherwise, I opt for white on grey, it is much more aesthetically pleasing than only white.

  • MayaEidolon

    MayaEidolon

    I prefer the all white, not the white with grey borders. It looks more professional.

    Also, I don’t especially like the new upload image page. Now I have to scroll down MORE than once to upload each image. What gain is there to offset the annoyance of needing to scroll down several timesto complete the uploading of each image?

  • Foxfires

    Foxfires

    Wonderful!! Love the white on white page!

  • memac

    memac

    Go with the white – the gray detracts. Thanks for all you RB people are doing for us! memac
    (aka M. Elaine Macdougall “Sunny Days Originals”

  • Barbara Applegate

    Barbara Applegate

    I love the new look, I think white only is good its crisp and clear

  • Keith Richardson

    Keith Richardson

    A special request – the Calendar pages – my calendars look so small – readers are not able to see some of the text, for example, that I have incorporated into the images such as here, and there is no way they can enlarge the image to see.
    Many thanks for the wonderful development of RB that keeps on happening! Keith

  • BackStage at RB replied

    Thanks for the comment Keith. You might also put in the ideas forum – where we’re trying to keep track (and prioritize) all of these suggestions.

  • synthpaintann

    synthpaintann

    If its to do with fast loading of image.. I’m all for it!!

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