Pro Life

Great!

powerful image,,, beautifully presented,,, well done

Yeah, one of the first things O’Bama did was restore funding to several countries who really push abortion.

This is almost Sci-fi, yet it’s grounded in biology!
The contrast of the cold and clinical ultrasound analysis with the underlying seed of life works very well for this image, Ash!
You should arouse some interest with this image!
Nice work!

Thank you for that! I already have gotten scrutiny but I really
don’t care. I am working with the National Right To Life
foundation and they are amazing people! I plan on doing
a few anti-abortion images, Morf and I are thinking up a
photo shoot. We will see how it all goes. Thanks so much
for your input!

thats a great one =] though all your work is

Well the positive thing about allowing funding to other countries for abortion is, we wont have women doing it on the “black market” so to speak and ending up dead from it…

either way lives are going to be lost. It makes sense to me to make sanitary and safe environments available, regardless of peoples opinions. Nice work though also regardless of the political argument behind the subject.

I hate politics lol.

I think for many women who go through this harrowing “procedure” it is not taken lightly and whilst I agree with not making it easier and certainly the last option (the issues in individual cases are not black and white). Like Jessica I would worry that “back street” practices would prevail and many women would loose their life in the most horrific manner (through desperation), this has gone on since the beginning of time.
So whilst sitting firmly on my fence, I would like you congratulate you on such a great and thought provoking picture which needs to be out there (education is always the key) xxxxx

Great image ash…............................................Martin

Love your work and this one especially ! Brilliant idea and beautiful picture.

looks like an ad for a baby machine…......reminds me alot of H.R Giger and Metropolis….....awesome work!!

wow nice stuff!!

Great work !!:)

I don’t understand the politics behind this but still, interesting image.

Ash, I love this, and I completely agree with you.

Poignant!!!......

I’m not trying to debate just putting something out there
and this is DEFINITELY not towards you or anyone in particular. I’m an quite literally venting, being offensively sarcastic and getting a bit off subject at times. but all angles must be considered :)

If your tax dollars did not abort that ‘unwanted’ baby, it could instead be funding a neglectful mother’s beer and cigarettes. Creating an unhealthy depressed shell of a human being who will need affection so desperately that she in turn will get knocked up far too young and recklessly by a guy who probably walk out her her and the kid and continue the cycle of neglect.

Many pro-lifers don’t consider the fact that CAPABLE LOVING MOTHERS DO NOT ABORT THEIR CHILDREN…Period…. Why would they? they are able and willing to raise it. So why is it even an issue between pro-life and pro-choice. Its not like a mother who wants her baby is pressured to abort it.

“Oh but he could be the next Einstein”
When I was 6 the school district tested my IQ. They told my grandmother they hadn’t seen anything like it and that I’d “grow up to be the next Einstein”...
So as ‘the next Einstein’ I must say…
I find this very thoughtless and selfish. It means you’d wish another human being to suffer just so you could enjoy the fruits of his intellect? Well then you’ll love my gallery in a couple years when my body finally gives out!

The general perception of adoption is bullshit. Social Services does not take care of the kids who go through this! I AM ONE. I ended up in a much more abusive household then you could ever imagine. I am forever crippled by my mothers consumption while she was pregnant and I am always in pain. Social Services has never helped me. In fact as a pre-teen I told several of my psychologists I feared for my life because of an abusive paranoid schizophrenic family member I was forced to live with, and it was never investigated (as by law it should have been the first time i reported it), and he is still to this day not medicated.

I agree with your statement about taxes. But could also apply it to hundreds of thousands of other things. Like why is your tax dollars killing children in Iraq…why cant we choose what we invest in. (I know the answer to that but that’s a completely different conversation)

—I just feel like people are attacking the symptom and not the problem.—
There is a much higher dysfunction going on here.

For example: Animal rights people… Their hearts are in the right place but their heads aren’t.
- Why do people abuse animals? – Usually because they were abused in some way themselves.
So if you want to stop animal abuse… stop child abuse… its a bit more important anyway.

brilliant

this… is amazing!
i love it.

i am not addressing your message or politics, but your artwork is amazing

The image is stunning Ash- perfect !!
And I think you are brave to bring the topic out for discussion, sometimes art, politics, beliefs and passions cannot be seperate (these are the things take that the art to another level) xoxox

“Democrats are against
war but allow abortion and Republicans are against abortion
but they are for war. It’s a huge catch 22 and we are all in
the middle as guinea pigs, it’s sick and twisted!”

anti war + pro choice = peace and less overpopulation
pro war + pro life = more soldiers for war

lol

Yeay I agree- A most adult site (refreshing huh) xxx

ill just say a powerful image thats has made people think well done

wonderful concept and stunning execution ash.. LOVE THIS!

Well done..! Awesome! :)

Great art! You set out with an opinion and produced something to sell the message. Fantastic structural concept in the work and beautifully executed. I love the fact that you kind of picked a fight, and were not afraid to hear what people say… that’s really cool! It’s what art is about.

omg this is unreal, amazing art n just wow

i’ll say first that you’ve assembled an engaging work here. you’ve definitely caught attention and sparked interest. and for that, i applaud you.

as for your sentiment, i’ll be as respectful as i can simply say, i disagree. you’re entitled to your views and you will act as you believe you must.

as for the impetus for this post, i assume that this in response to the US government restoring funding to the UN Population Fund (UNFPA) – [ http://www.unfpa.org/public/ ]. I would recommend that you look into the issue further. Since it’s inception in 1969, the US government, with the exception of the Reagan and Bush43 administrations, has supported this program and accepted it’s responsibility to do so as a member of the UN.

The number one reason in defense of withholding this funding in recent years is due to the allegation that funds were being used for sterilization and abortions by the Chinese government. This allegation is unsubstantiated and has since been disproved by US, UK, & UN investigations.

In spite of the the impression most people have of the UNFPA, it is not used to just hand out condoms and abort pregnancies. It is world-wide program to provide health care to those who would otherwise have no access to even the most basic care. Among a very great many services, the program provides for counseling, prenatal care, birthing deliveries, postnatal care, and obstetric care. In addition, it works to prevent diseases, genital mutilation, and violence against women. It’s overarching goal is health and well being and on a much broader scale aims to reduce maternal mortality, infant mortality, support human rights, and gender equality.

please look into the the programs provided and the actions taken. After learning what the UN does and reading the heartbreaking stories of the desperate souls who need this help, considering if you could look one of them in the eye and tell her that you won’t help her.

Wow Ash, this is quite interesting, along with the rest of your work. Where do you get your inspiration?

I know exactly what you mean. Most of my work, horrible of otherwise, comes from dreams or visions I have walking down the halls of my school. Maybe I’m hyperactive, maybe I’m sick, maybe I’m crazy like everyone accuses me of being, but I’m at least a little human and have emotions.

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i LOVE this. all of your work is amazing..keep it up :)

Powerful image! I think it’s one of your best.

With the death of 1,000,000,000…....that is ONE MILLION babies each YEAR….I am tired of hearing the same rhetoric….and the same excuses for killing innocent life… Hearts are so hardened, that the truth dare not inter into their minds, and hearts, as they will not be…in the “inner circle”...of the popular ones…who are PRO DEATH… I make no apology, for this as it is directed at no one particular, and I applaud you for putting this up. But as a Christian, I have been slammed like a rag doll, back and forth, as if a dog has it in it’s mouth, trying to kill it…..all for my stance on abortion. I am not so hard hearted to think there might be an excuse once in a great while…. and yet… one million a YEAR!!!!!!!
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powerful picture!

wonderful work… a very powerful and thought provoking image!

Sweet Ash, You certainly got people talking over this one! I think you’ve put forward an amazing, powerful image here, and I’m glad so many people are opening up. Well done Sweetie. xx

This is great, you’re brilliant :))

I can understand your displeasure at where your tax money is going as this is something that affects you but until you are faced with the decision yourself I don’t think you have the right to disagree with someone elses decision. The decision is made for many many valid reasons and there are many roads that lead to the choice that is made and it is a hard emotional journey and until you experience it there is no way of comprehending what it feels like. Thats all I wanted to say – I hope this comes across the way I intend it to – I am not very good with words – that is why I photograph, paint and draw!

All the political stuff aside it is a powerful piece of art that is very nicely done. You say you aren’t happy with it though? – I know as artist we are our own worst critic!

Not everyone who has had an abortion views it as a mistake

This piece is wonderfully thought provoking, your commentary on the other hand is pedestrian. You pretty much parrot the far right religious wingnuts, judgement on anything we do will come from a higher power than you or the old white men that run this country. Now that you have covered the waste of your tax dollars on this issue. I look forward to your next piece on a different waste, or is this the one note you know? Just sayin.

I really enjoy this image. I also appreciate how mostly everyone is to simply discuss the issue in a non-hostile adult manner. Too many times I’ve seen these discussions devolve into insulting, patronizing arguments. It’s refreshing to see a debate where both sides are able to courteously express their opinion. My hats off the Red Bubble community, you all are stand up people.

Once again, fantastic image Ash. Really strong work.

Freedom of speach is a wonderful thing, it allows anyone to speak on things that that know nothing about, and to feign righteous indignation when called on something. You may be educated, but George W. Bush was a college graduate. I did not confuse your image with anything, I actually thought it was a wonderful piece. My ” ignorant assumption ” as you call it, was that an artists work could speak for itself. Artists like Basquait or Maplethorpe needed little self promoting commentary, and their works spoke volumes. Yours on the other hand seems to need proping up.

Ash, first let me say that this is a fantastic work of art you have created. It is powerful and the message you want to convey comes through loud and clear. While I disagree with you, I have a great respect for your art and your opinion. You have expressed it thoughtfully and intelligently.

On the issue of tax funding, it is the same as funding for all Medicaid and other welfare funded medical procedures. Abortion is legal in the USA, and all women should have access to a legal medical procedure regardless of economic status. That’s just my opinion, for what it’s worth.

Again, it is a great image. I wish other pro- life work was so well done and tastefully presented.

I think it is a personal choice, yet I agree that abortion should never be used as a method of birth control.

Blah, blah, blah.There are 87 more keys on that piano.

Love what you’ve done here. Brilliant piece, so thoughtfully presented.

We condemn and call other countries barbaric for acts against their own people, but the truth is, all that have died in wars, or at the hands of a cruel dictator, can’t compare with the number of human babies that have died in this country through abortion! As much as I love this country, I’m disgusted by a practice being done in a country that calls itself “civilized” How could our President look into the eyes of his two beautiful daughters and think abortion is ok. Where’s the real madness?

Thank you for having the courage to present this issue through your wonderful, and very amazing artistic talent.

It’s truly a tough subject which has caused a hugh division in our country. As long as humans exist on this planet, we will forever be dealing with war and abortion as major issues. Some minds might change in either direction, but for the most part, unfortunately, it will always divide us.

As pro life as I am, at the same time, I realize this is not a black and white world we live in, and there are circumstances that perhaps allow no other alternative, such as a pregnancy that is threatening the life of a mother, or rape. Now having said that, the biggest problem is that abortion is used, in many cases, for selfish reasons, not taking responsibility for one’s own actions. We are all human, we all make bad decisions in life, but taking responsibility for those decisions, when they result in an unintended consequence, shows character. In allowing, as well, late term abortion, I feel we are selling our souls. Just so you know, I’m not coming from a religious view point at all, but instead from a human decency, and great respect for human life viewpoint.

I would never judge or look down on a woman for making the decision to have an abortion, but instead, I do feel very sad for that decision, knowing that someday they may have a hard time living with that “choice”. I speak for several woman I know that are experiencing that very regret. Does planned parenthood ever discuss, or counsel on the real downside to having an abortion? doubtful! How about those unexpected consequences?

Abortion is a very complicated issue, not one that will ever be agreed upon. Maybe when we start looking at our babies as a blessing, instead of a burden (as Obama stated) it would help in bringing down the number of abortions performed in this country. Much of this mindset comes, not only from our homes, but from our government, and at this present time, we have many leaders in our government that encourage this practice. Not to mention the celebrity world that our children want to mirror.

I speak for myself when I say, let adoption be the alternative, when at all possible, which I realize is a whole other subject as we need to reform our adoption laws as well.

Thanks so very much Ash, for making it possible to exchange our views on this very important issue.

awesome image…makes one really think.

This is very cool reminds me of a peice i seen on gfx artests http://jmayer.gfxartist.com/artworks/175196
Its done on the sametheme but i like yours more

I hadn’t been on the “Bubble” recently, and had forgotten how dreary I feel after looking at your images, even if they are great. Compliments on the image though, and your comments, which opened up a great discussion of the issue. I think you should run for Prez in 2012 as the candidate for the “Scary as Hell Party”, recently known to most as the Republicans. I could be your campaign chairman. I have experience, having headed the Bush 2008 “Four More Years” campaign.

Oh, by the way. Should I be having these feelings of hopelessness after viewing your images? I don’t know who else to talk to.

loveeeeeeeeeee this one….......i agree with you and im sure millions of others….....MORE-—-—->

Oops! Sorry. Was going for humor. Obviously failed miserably. Don’t mind saying I’m a proud Republican. I even send money sometimes. Actually would have voted for Bush again if he could have run. Third time’s a charm. He should have tried for an amendment like Chavez. Abortion, bad. War, necessary sometimes. I love when liberals toss out the anti-abortion/pro war thing. It’s so freeking irrational. I give thanks to the men and women who risk it all for us, but how can anyone compare the deaths of several thousand of the most highly trained, heavily armed, volunteers in the world, to the deaths of millions of the most innocent of human beings. Makes me want to pull what’s left of my hair out. Anyway, the truth doesn’t scare me so much, since I can only rarely figure out what it is. Your images do though. How do you think that way? So, when I get back to the states, I think I’ll buy a couple, partly because they’re good, but also as a reminder that sometimes I should just shut up and think about whether I really have any reason to be happy. Ciao. Auguri. Buona fortuna.

Oh, I was confused a bit, I couldn’t peg it. It’s hard to convey humor online
sometimes, we all fail at it! As far as republicans vs. democrats – eh, I think
we are all their pawns and I vote for the lesser evil. I do believe that the democrats
demonize the republicans, Sarah Palin was not what the media portrayed, the
democrats own nearly all tv stations and magazine presses, it’s common
knowledge. Biden was a big phony and proven liar – he is a vice president
in training as Obama is a president in training.

The truth scares the hell out of me but I rather see it head on, it’s better than
being hit with it out of no where!!! Extreme liberals tend to think the whole
“what’s yours is mine” until it comes to their possessions. I find them in
constant contradiction and more lies swarm around them than the republican
party but again, we are all their pawns. I can’t say I support the war and I can’t
say I shun it either, it is necessary at times … but for how long and to what cost?
I have many friends that are in the military and I will never tell them they are in
the wrong – they fight for our freedom and I am very thankful for that. All countries
have a military and they fight for what they believe is just and fair (usually) so why
would our citizens attack our troops? They would attack them no matter what really,
if they wouldn’t defend they would be crucified and rejected just as they are now!

As far as the war vs. abortion debate – I think they are two completely different
subjects that do not mingle – only when taxes are concerned. Taxes are there
to support government, we should not have to support abortions. What do you
mean by “how do you think that way?” I do thank you for the compliments, I am
usually dissecting how I feel about topics such as this when creating, I don’t
think about the actual subject most of the time… just feelings and fact. Where
are you in the world right now and where are you originally from? I do thank you
for your input and it’s fantastic to hear such things coming from a man, most
men I speak to are very strongly pro-choice, not saying you are either but you
certainly have your eyes open.

If you feel dreary after viewing my images – that means I succeeded and it’s
just natural to feel dreary and drained when faced with a topic like abortion,
I feel drained very often. Take care and let me know when you come back to
the states!

To Ash Sivils.

... powerful TRUTH as statement made FLESH … yes – this forgotten TRUTH that exists independently outside of our colective psyche … but in reach of our DELUSIONAL subconscious perceptions of CHOICE and CONSEQUENCE.

What is then the importance of this rational? ... Life and only life … the rest is WORD PLAY.

Vis inertiae … vox et praeterea nihil.

Kirrill D’Kainn.

I think what bothers me about the so-called “pro-life” position is that most are outraged by an abortion. The claim is that they care so much about babies that it breaks their hearts to see them killed. As a compassionate person, this makes total sense to me. However, when that baby is born to a mother who is a crack addict, or is in no way capable of caring for the child and then the mother has collect welfare or depend upon the state, they are, in many cases, the same people screaming about “lazy welfare mothers”. And as others have sited, to be pro-life one should also be anti-war.
But I haven’t seen many consistent on this issue. In fact, it’s one of the most glaring hypocrisies of the so-called “pro-life” movement. I hate abortions and I hate war. However, I think that time would better spent working to create a world where neither is necessary, rather than blaming women or the president for doing what was granted by law, and given the level of population growth and dwindling resources, a question of global sustainability. Less poverty=fewer abortions. Quality health care and sex education=fewer abortions. Having said all of that, it should remain a woman’s right to choose. My opinion.

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great work!!! xo

You are right I shouldn’t assume that all pro-life supporters are alike. And I respect your apparent compassion. As you yourself said, “abortion works for some.” I would not force a woman to have an abortion. Likewise, I don’t want a woman to lose the CHOICE to make the decision that’s right for. It’s up to her and no concern for the possible mistake that she could be making is a reasonable justification to take that right away. Give a woman the information that she needs to make the best decision. It is also a known fact that where abstinence only is the only option that abortion rates are higher.

Last point: Your work is powerful and excellent. I think that it is the most powerful argument that you can make. But I respect your position.

I appreciate your honesty and respect. All of us pro-life supporters aren’t alike,
I live down the street from an abortion bombers family – he is in prison. I don’t
agree with what he did, I shun it very much so! I think the option should be
available for women who are educated and counseled prior to an abortion.
Maybe bring in a woman who has had an abortion and a woman who chose not
to. Bring in doctors and gynecologists as well. That may help the women cope
with life after the choice – whether they decide to keep the baby or choose to
abort. I believe if a group is held with other women who are thinking about it,
it could face these women with what they are about to do. Since the taxes in the
US are going towards abortions I don’t see how this is a down fall. The nation
is now involved in these choices since the tax payers agree/disagree with it.
So the personal choice has now been brought out of the shadows into the
light. It’s no longer a “personal choice” anymore – not until the abortion aid rule
is over turned. I think the government should supply this since they are supplying
free abortions – it just makes sense to counsel women before and after.

Thank you for the compliment, I’ve tried to respect everyone who is respectful
towards the topic. I have received some hateful comments and messages but
that just means I did my job. Thank you for being respectful, you know how to
speak without accusation and I appreciate that. I respect your stance as well,
we all have our reasons!

Wow, you’ve certainly created some debate here!!!!! Amazing piece of work no matter what the viewer’s stance on abortion, well done!!!! :)

PHEW!!!! I have read all this tonight and thank god for guiness to keep me calm!! I congratulate you on a piece that has created so much debate. I wish for my art to stir up emotion like this. I must think hard how to do this…
My wife asks if you put the baby head up for a reason?

Have u ever seen any of bill Hicks routines on abortion Ash?

Just curious to be honest, what did you think of his comments on the particualr subject?

Cool Ash, i hope i havent offended u with my questions, i dont actually agree with u. Over here these operations can be performed on the national health service, and i have no problem with people paying taxes for medical procedures, it was in its day a bastion and something of “herald of the new century” when Loyd George first proposed the NHS. In reality its another corporate lamb to the slaughter no matter which government is serving at the time, and there in lays the problem, which kinda comes to a head with the abortion issue. These procedures are gonna happen whether the facilities are sterile or not, as lots of people have posted above, so i think like any medical procedure it should be as clinical as possible. The same could apply to smoking, and ironically over here the tax revenue generated from cigarette sales could account for a large percentage of the NHS running costs, same goes for drink to, the big killer globally, u see heres why it bothers me about raising tax as an issue here, the next thing will be obessity, that people arent entitled to health care because theyre obesse, or drinking excessively. I think that every citizen deserves health care at the very least of a basic level, and as your dissent seems to be on tax basis and not religious, then its just a health procedure. If you see my point? All the same tho Ash, whatever your opinion, a sign of great art is to get people to think, and that is exactly what youve done here, brave work, KUDOS!!!!!!!

PS check out Doug Stanhope if u like Bill Hicks

On a physical level, it’s devastating what happens to our children and people in general. political circumstances shouldn’t enter into the debate at all. On a spiritual level, karma is infallible, meaning what we do in an action must be paid off somehow, either in this life or the next. Until we realise that life itself is sacred rather than imposed “laws” for the sake of laws. When we can learn to take responsibility on all our actions then we may grow. The difficulty with the citizens of the world is the hypocrisy of our leaders who kill relentlessly and tell us not to. conflicting messages, we live in a top down society. A titbit of info, University studies found that when capital punishment was enforced by the state, then homicides sky-rocketed. The logic was if our leaders can kill, so can we, which I personally think is wrong, and at the root of a lot of our problems. We are in a perpetual war, so the message is the same.

I think an exception to the rule in abortion would be incestuous rape or violent aggravated rape, but then the day after pill should suffice? it’s difficult, I’m not a judge. hey we forget that third world countries have no such luxury.

all valid points. life isn’t easy.