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Painting with graphite........or, the Pterosaur bites back...!

kafka kafka 2191 posts

This is a work in progress that I hope you will enjoy following over the next few weeks as it develops.
The work is one of a series that I have just begun, some of which will be shown next year in an exhibition titled ‘Contemporary Welsh Drawing, Lines and Strata 2’
I’ve chosen to use just graphite (on canvas) as a medium, but as well as drawing with it I am mixing graphite powder with various liquid mediums to apply as paint. It’s a bit of an experiment as I’m not all that sure how the different combinations are going to react with each other…I don’t have a clue if this is going to work…..so here goes nothing!

Stage one – drawing in the basic construction using 8B ‘progresso’ solid graphite pencil, masking tape, and dry graphite powder brushed into the canvas surface with a 2” flat.

The powder ‘sets’ at a mid-tone grey, so to get the darker tones it has to have some liquid medium added to it – in this case I first tried straight turpentine which reacts a bit like a watercolour wash and gives a darker grey tone – when the wash is still wet I can then draw into it with a pencil and get wet-in-wet lines – once it is dry I can use a putty rubber or a sharp penknife to rub or scratch through the layer to show the white canvas underneath……..

To get an even darker tone I have to switch to using either oil (poppy or linseed) or liquid varnish as a medium – the varnish is interesting because, when dry, it acts as a resist to any layers placed above it………..


detail

The subject/content of these works is partly dictated by the theme of the exhibition – which is a fortunate co-incidence for me because also at the moment I am working through some Pterosaur/Angel ideas for some paintings, which can be easily explored further in these drawings. During the next stage I will introduce the Pterosaur and see if I can nail him to the cross somehow……..

Nawroski . Nawroski . 34 posts

This looks a intresting method of manipulating graphite, have you thought of applying other mediums to the canvas as-well suchas print and or small 3d objects. Maybe as it progresses they will introduce themselves. Good luck! Will try and keep track of its progression

Janis Zroback Janis Zroback 216 posts

I am wondering of liquid graphite might make your project easier to create…there is a brand called Derivan that comes in several greyed colours you might find it interesting to experiment with it…it looks like pencil, works like watercolour…

Zefira Zefira 45 posts

thanks for sharing this – look forward to progress reports

Jules Baldwin Jules Baldwin 3 posts

Very interesting…I’ll be watching progress x

kafka kafka 2191 posts

Thanks for the comments guys – Nawroski…...I did think of pasting a print of the earlier work ‘Pterosaur’ onto the canvas, but figured as this was an experiment I’d try to keep it simple to begin with – once I’ve worked out how the stuff behaves I’ll maybe try out the idea in a later work.
Janis – thanks for the tip. I’ll try and get hold of some and give it a go…....it can’t be any messier than using the powder is! :-) I look like I’ve been down a coal mine after a few hours of using this stuff.

Useful tip here is to give the work a very light spray of either fixative or spray varnish every now and then just to hold the more mobile bits in place!

next stage – progressing slowly because of a thousand other things that need doing at the same time…..

blocked in some bones and started laying in a map layer and a grid layer…......

heavily worked over the whole surface to give me something to cut through on the next stage

began a second work…........starting to like this powdery black stuff :-)

Nawroski . Nawroski . 34 posts

Maybe this is of some help, the universal call sign for a cross or crucifix is a negative or NO. It’s banality and regressive symbolism’s within its artistic evolution entitles it to this.
I understand fully what you are trying to achieve and say with these graphite crucifixes or window area’s. Question: Do you!!!

Nawroski . Nawroski . 34 posts

Sorry for last remark! you obviously do – else you wouldnt be doing them.
Ps: Think it was the pickle I had for tea((::

kafka kafka 2191 posts

moving along…….. useful tip for anyone thinking of using graphite powder – wear a face-mask or suffer from the most spectacular (and very….black) sneezes.

detail

Interesting POV Nawroski…….I’m glad you know what I’m trying to acheive and say……..I’ve been trying to work it out for years :-)
(……makes mental note to eat more goldfish pickle and discard all intuitive improvisation)

I promise to put this in the Critique forum if it ever gets finished and we can have some fun dissecting the conceptual corpse there.
Just a thought for now…...
Sorry for last remark! you obviously do – else you wouldnt be doing them

Not really, It’s because I don’t, that I am doing them…......

Zefira Zefira 45 posts

really liking the depth that’s developing and what you’ve learned already about the medium shows in the new one. Love your way with words too ;)

Nawroski . Nawroski . 34 posts

Sounds intresting? you don’t! that is why you are doing them! – Is this a spiritual contradictive standing point, or perspective with these?
Question in response to the above:
1. Why do you do them?
2. What is your understanding or opinions towards christianity & anthropology.
3. Is the process more meaningfull to you than the image you are creating.
4. Does this progressive way of working lead beyond the canvas and preconcepts, or stay as a finality when working it?
5. Which is stronger for you, the image or process.

kafka kafka 2191 posts

All good questions N – the kind of things that I ask myself all the time:-)

There are probably no short or easy answers to any of those…….
The process, by which I mean the mental process that results in an image (as opposed to the mechanical process or technique used) is, for me, the most important part. The resulting image itself is relatively unimportant – it represents the ending of a particular exploration through a landscape of ideas and feelings. I very rarely pre-conceptualise a ‘finished’ work – there are usually a few components and elements that I wish to include, (in this case a crucifix and a pterosaur) but when first confronted by a blank canvas, I have no conception of where they are going to lead me. It’s an unfashionably modernist way to work, but it is the kind of approach that works for me.

We’ve had long discussions here about when exactly the ‘process’ ends, particularly the relationship between artist, work, and viewer. At one time I would have insisted on the autonomy of the artist – a state of existential subjective isolation. Recently, thanks to having my eyes opened in other directions, I’m more accepting of the continuation of the work and process beyond the artist – of course, it changes the work, but that may well be a good thing (?)

The Christian symbolism……. Again, your earlier comment reveals the subjective nature of reading too much or little into any perceived symbolism. A cross may well be regarded only in terms of its art/historic cultural symbolism – but I think it is a mistake to attach a simplistic graphic label onto something that can contain a multitude of ambiguous subjective meanings for an individual (particularly if that individual is an artist)

This is a violent work with an act of violence at its heart – the crucifixion is real, as is the struggling extinct creature – but it also has a narrative factor (using this term in a very broad sense) it is not simply an act of violence that is abstracted, it is also an act which embodies a recurrent and recognizable motif. It suggests a transcendence of finitude even beyond extinction – in the expectation of redemption. The act of violence, in other words, signifies an imperative. It is recognized not in its own right – as a murder, but as a vehicle to a message. We do not know what that message is (it is unimportant) but we should feel that it is there (which is important)…..it’s there because I put it there, even if a viewer’s subjectivity sees it differently.

It’s also a violent work in another sense – the distortion and the reduction of basic shape and space (as in all abstracted work) gives rise to a more ‘primitive’ and thence more direct communication between artist and viewer – (a recognition of the/my process moving beyond the artist which should please my friend Mufa no end:-)

In other words, the violence of the technical and formal means should not be seen just in those terms – as an act of aggression – it signifies a rejection and reformulation of a rigid relation between painting and viewer. The crucifixion then, is representative of a dimension of violence in terms of the subject-matter of a painting and also the medium of painting – violence which can also serve a broader narrative function bound up with the affirmation of prevailing sets of cultural/spiritual values, or with the rejection of such values.

This is the kind of broad conceptual framework that evolves, and often crumbles as my work progresses – it is often ambiguous, illogical and unfinished, but it serves its purpose – which is to give a visual structure to a mental process.

My own views on Christianity and anthropology would probably fill a book…….the short answer – I see doctrine as metaphor and faith as a matter of personal subjective experience. Anthropology is a fascinating science that I’ve always enjoyed reading about.

Why do I do them?.........
Beats working for a living:)
(Question too difficult :
))!

ps. none of the above has anything to do with working with graphite….........apologies for the interlude…..

Zefira Zefira 45 posts

well said

Nawroski . Nawroski . 34 posts

Good answers! Mr Kafka,
Analysis / feedback: Your progressive Modernist approach to a peterosaur & cruxifix are worked exterior to your application & image construction, eg: automation driven by artist passion’s. This approach giving you a journey that leads you to an ending – with newism to your already established proceedural concept’s. I feel from what you have stated is that the work you are doing tells you when it is finished & prevents you from further application or process.

The visual aggression shown in your crucifix uncontrolably draws the viewer’s eye in a downward fashion from the top of the canvas towrds the bottom of the canvas, this I personally feel is how you are working this to make the viewer acknowlege what you are saying, and have control over your subject matter. Your affirmation to cultural / spiral value’s within a society of decision making is simply a underlinig ethical approach, unlike your working process in this subject matter.

I agree on all you contexualisation’s of a working process this method cannot be surpassed as a pure way of working.
And it would probulary take the entire internet to convey the history of anthropology alongside christianity.
Nice talking with you!

kafka kafka 2191 posts

My apologies for the forced absence guys (I’ve had flu:-(
Very nice talking to you too Nawroski – I hope to wrap this up over the next few days…......back soon!

Mufa ... Mufa ... 219 posts

I haven’t really commented much on your recent work because it appears to be focused on an area to which I can’t relate, and I’m ever mindful of sensitivities that I can’t even start to consider.
However, after reading the ‘artist’s statement’ above (which I very much enjoyed – I should have known we’d find the usual onion) – it struck me, for the first time in two years, you are a budding conceptual artist. This is not just based on my current mind-set – you basically concede the fact with this introspective revelation….......

kafka kafka 2191 posts

Final stages of this work

One of the things that tends to happen with this medium, probably because I’m not used to working ‘clean’, is that the sheer amount of stuff happening on the working surface begins to flatten the contrast – on a greyscale you are working effectively with only the top half of the scale white to mid-grey – any darker and the surface gets clogged and has a very solid look to it. I need to pull back some areas to regain some contrast before moving to the final drawing stage – my solution….masking tape, a toothbrush, and some turpentine. Mask the area to ‘clean’ and dip the toothbrush in some clean turps and scrub away – the turps wants to bleed under the tape, so as soon as the graphite/varnish starts moving, wipe it away quickly with a piece of kitchen roll….risky – pouring turpentine on a nearly finished work is not something I would normally recommend, but as long as you are quick with it, the damage should be minimal.

Cleaned up……

Next stage is to draw (with a rigger) the plan/map and interweave it with the main structure of the image – I developed part of it out to become a gantry growing up the side of the crucifix

The overall image is still a bit flat and lacking surface depth, so the very final stage is to use a very black wax-based pencil to drag a bunch of vertical lines into some areas – the reason for using wax is that I know that when I paint on a solvent based varnish it will partially soften these lines and pull them in the direction of the varnish brushstrokes. These last few stages are a bit like playing chess – you need to know three moves in advance what the culmination of the stages is going to look like (you can’t really see it as it is happening) to do this I did a load of different test pieces on some scraps of canvas to see what would happen and to get the timing right.

The first full varnish coat really brings everything to life (as planned….whew) the wax lines drag into the surface perfectly and give just the kind of sweeping vertical emphasis to the layer that I hoped for. The pterosaur snaps into focus properly for the first time – the effect of the increase in contrast that the varnish gives.

One minor problem with using gloss varnish is that the work is almost impossible to photograph – after a few more coats it will be like a glass finish

This is as close as I could get to the actual look of the thing – there are some reflections which are picking up the surface texture…..but I’m no photo wizard, so they’ll have to stay there. For a better image go here# to the higher-res version

Now all I need to do is think about all that conceptual stuff…………

kafka kafka 2191 posts

@Mufa – Thank you (really) for considering my sensitivity on matters of faith, but please don’t feel you need to hold back from comment – my own beliefs are entirely subjective (to me) and are impervious to any other contrary (subjective) view. I appreciate that it may well be pointless anyway, given that we would likely have entirely different frames of reference to the subject, but I’m happy to thrash it out if you feel like it :-) (just don’t expect to get anywhere with it!)

It’s been a while since anything about me has been described as ‘budding’ (I feel quite chuffed:-) – Yes, you’re absolutely right. There were some very distinct conceptual elements that jumped in there right from the start – but I tried not to let them interfere too much with the other more instinctive strands of the work. I often find that thoughts and ideas about things like spirituality have a way of filtering through (almost sub-consciously) into the work as it progresses – it’s like a reverse process whereby a shape or mark on the canvas resulting from an expressive move then suggests a conceptual trigger for the next series of mark-making – vague I know….I’m loathe to over-analyse it at this stage for fear of killing it off….......
I’m beginning to wonder if Modernist/expressionist and Conceptual have to be rigidly mutually exclusive (?) – I know that much of my work during the past two years has been a mixture of both – but the ‘finished’ works generally seem not to self-destruct due to mutual repulsion……

Zefira Zefira 45 posts

The work looks great! Fascinating to watch the process. I like your explanation how thoughts and ideas filter through into the work; I’ve always had difficulty explaining that my best work comes from not thinking and yet at the same time interpreting it intellectually – it’s not either/or it’s both. Cheers Z.

Mufa ... Mufa ... 219 posts

You won’t be getting any religious/spiritual discussion from me – I haven’t really had THAT discussion since my student days. It soon became apparent after about 40 of them in quick succession that it is the most useless activity known to man (I mean the discussion – not any particular viewpoint).

Conceptual existential expressionist – got an impressive ring to it.

Of course, it has been readily evident all along that there is a strong conceptual/intellectual element to all your work – but when you add in the trademark ‘the finished work doesn’t matter to me’ plea – the modernist side of the balance begins to look increasingly flimsy and the day when the painting as work of art is finally eliminated draws nearer….......!

kafka kafka 2191 posts

I’m pleased to see that first paragraph – you either get it, or you don’t…....end of discussion:-)

Conceptual existential expressionist – I might have trouble saying that after a few beers, but it’s on the right lines.

‘the finished work doesn’t matter’ is overstating it a bit – it does matter but it’s not as important as the process of getting there – I can see the attraction of breaking free from the metaphysical stuff that inhabits modernism and moving to a ‘pure’ conceptual form – but I am by nature an expressive painter – even if I begin in ‘conceptual’ mode, I very quickly revert to type and start throwing paint about all over the place as usual.
At the moment I’m happy with the balance (best of both worlds)
Your Putism project (it seems like ages ago) was the thing that started all this merging of isms anyway…......

kafka kafka 2191 posts

Zefira – Thank you! – I figure it’s about getting the right/left brain thing in some sort of balance that works for each of us as individuals – I’ve tried making works where the conceptual part is totally pre-planned in advance, but I usually get a little way into it and the whole thing just goes out the window!